Civil War Token Help Requested!

thecoinlook

Having trouble with a couple.

First one is because of the cracks. Not sure what die state this one is.




This one, was labeled as a 205/412 when I purchased the lot... but it is not.
The closest one it looks like is a 413, but the PT touch, and appears much higher on this coin.
The pics didnt turn out very well for this one. If better pics are needed, let me know.





Thanks for the input!

I am using http://home.comcast.net/~bluitje104189mi/index.htm as my attribution guide...

thecoinlook

Looked a little more in to the Flag of Our Union one... the main picture on the site for the 413 doesn't look like it as much as the 2nd picture for the 413.
so, I am thinking 413?

coindeuce

From Fuld 4th ed.(revised), first token is 53/336. Die state of reverse in this condition is of little consequence.

Second token appears to be 207/412. The 25 stars/6 bars flag with star below top right corner of flag has to 207 obverse. On 205 obverse, the star would be positioned right on the corner of the flag, which has only 5 bars. The position of reverse lettering you imaged in enlarged scale matches the Fuld plate for 412 reverse exactly.

thecoinlook

I appreciate the response! Is the picture listed here incorrect?

coindeuce

<< <i>I appreciate the response! Is the picture listed here incorrect? >>



Yes, it appears that the composer of this page transposed the 412 and 413 reverses. They are opposite to the arrangement on the Fuld plate on page 75 of Fuld 4th. On 412, the T of SPOT is directly opposite the T of IT. ON 413 reverse, the T of SPOT is slightly left of the T of IT.

Edited to correct last sentence.