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Contact Congress NOW to Stop Chinese Counterfeits

PASSAGE OF HR 5977 IS NOW UP TO YOU

All dealers need to contact their Members of Congress NOW, and urge them to co-sponsor HR 5977 – The “Collectible Coin Protection Act.” This bill has no financial impact on the national budget (it is “revenue neutral”), and each additional co-sponsor is critical for its prospects for passage.

It only takes a minute -- to find your Member of Congress, go to www.house.gov and follow the prompts. For a complete copy of HR 5977, go to www.thomas.gov and follow the prompts or go to ICTA’s website www.ictaonline.org Click on the What’s New tab.

Send your message via email, phone, or fax. (Snail mail is no longer the method of choice for communicating with your Members of Congress because it has to undergo so many security checks.) And let Political Consultant Jimmy Hayes know which Member of Congress you’ve contacted by sending him a message at jjjbluedog@aol.com

PLEASE DON’T PUT THIS OFF – YOU NEED TO ACT NOW

When you send your message via your Member of Congress’ website, all you need do is copy the message below into the email box. If the website asks for “Subject,” you likely will list “Other” or “Miscellaneous.” If you fax your message, be sure to include your full name and mailing address so your Member of Congress knows you are a constituent from his/her congressional district. If your business is in a different congressional district from your home, send your message to the Members of Congress who represent both your home and business districts.

Your message to your Member of Congress should be:

As your constituent, I urge you to sign on as a co-sponsor of H.R. 5977, “The Collectible Coin Protection Act.” The bill was introduced on June 12 by Reps. Lamar Smith and Fred Upton, chairs of the Judiciary and Energy & Commerce Committees, respectively.

The bill provides a means whereby US citizens can take legal action against purveyors of the high-quality counterfeit US coins entering our marketplace from China by expanding enforcement power of The Hobby Protection Act. The Hobby Protection Act has been in effect since its passage in December, 1975, but lacks enforcement power that HR 5977 now provides.

HR 5977 is revenue neutral and contains no controversial issues.


A copy of The Hobby Protection Act is available at http://www.collectors.org/Library/Hobby_Protection_Act.asp Please contact me if you have any questions or need additional information. Thank you in advance for your support.




Industry Council for Tangible Assets (ICTA), Inc.
Since 1983, the national trade association for the rare coin, currency, and precious metals industry. PO Box 1365, Severna Park, MD 21146-8365. PH: 410-626-7005 FX: 410-626-7007. www.ictaonline.org

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,780 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet.
    From your lips to God's ear.

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  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    Done
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭

    Done.

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    Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boing ! image
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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Done about a week ago.
    image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stop all counterfeits, or just those made in China?

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    .
    Here is the link from the previous thread to the:
    Bill Summary & Status
    112th Congress (2011 - 2012)
    H.R.5977

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Done.
    Gladly done!
    When in doubt, don't.
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I discussed the matter with my Member of Congress a couple of weeks ago and was basically told the matter is being looked at by some House subcommittee now of which he is not a part of. So until it the bill makes it out of that committee and makes it to the full House floor for a vote, there's really nothing he is able to do. Anyone know which committee has the bill now and which members are a part of that committee??? Our efforts may be more productive if we can target those members who can actually do something at this time.
  • I can't stand that legislation is so vaguely worded...

    "Provision of Assistance or Support- It shall be a violation of subsection (a) or (b) for a person to provide substantial assistance or support to any manufacturer, importer, or seller if that person knows or consciously avoids knowing that the manufacturer, importer, or seller is engaged in any act or practice that violates subsection"

    What is considered 'substantial assistance' and of what? (10, 100, 1000 coins/minutes/bytes/words?) How can they prove that you 'consciously avoid' anything? (Are there Federal mind readers on payroll?)

    What happens to the poor soul that unknowingly tries to sell their yard sale find of 1,000 counterfeit coins?! Grandma's going to prison!
    What happens to commerce sites like Craigslist, eBay, Amazon, etc? They're going to need a full-time staff to monitor every auction... and if counterfeit sales slip through the cracks?

    Once again, the government can't adequately enforce existing laws (counterfeiting coins), so it extends its authority to be more general (and harder to enforce)...
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They're watching and know the right thing to do.
  • dac076dac076 Posts: 817
    Done, thanks!
  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I discussed the matter with my Member of Congress a couple of weeks ago and was basically told the matter is being looked at by some House subcommittee now of which he is not a part of. So until it the bill makes it out of that committee and makes it to the full House floor for a vote, there's really nothing he is able to do. Anyone know which committee has the bill now and which members are a part of that committee??? Our efforts may be more productive if we can target those members who can actually do something at this time. >>



    This is BS. He is supposed to be your voice in Washington. He can contact the members of that sub-committee himself, or have his staff talk to their staffs, to let them know that he supports the legislation and that it is important to his constituents.
    If he cares.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Done. Thanks for all you and PCGS have done.
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  • heavymetalheavymetal Posts: 630 ✭✭✭✭
    Done. HM
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Done
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  • DBSTrader2DBSTrader2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭✭
    Unfortunately, I'm sure Congress will give this bill their utmost attention, just as soon as they return from whatever vacations they are on, or finish voting on important issues for the well-being of our country, like whether or not to designate next week as "Polish Sausage Appreciation Week".......image

    As au58 pointed out, most don't even expend the slightest effort to investigate or use their staff to track down even the simplest of requests - - UNLESS there's something in it for them.

    - - Dave image
  • TURBOTURBO Posts: 494 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Unfortunately, I'm sure Congress will give this bill their utmost attention, just as soon as they return from whatever vacations they are on, or finish voting on important issues for the well-being of our country, like whether or not to designate next week as "Polish Sausage Appreciation Week".......image

    As au58 pointed out, most don't even expend the slightest effort to investigate or use their staff to track down even the simplest of requests - - UNLESS there's something in it for them.

    - - Dave image >>

    image
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,619 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Unfortunately, I'm sure Congress will give this bill their utmost attention, just as soon as they return from whatever vacations they are on, or finish voting on important issues for the well-being of our country, like whether or not to designate next week as "Polish Sausage Appreciation Week".......image

    As au58 pointed out, most don't even expend the slightest effort to investigate or use their staff to track down even the simplest of requests - - UNLESS there's something in it for them.

    - - Dave image >>


    They don't really care what is says - if enough of their constituents voice support, they will support. There is something in it for them: happy constituents = re-election.

    No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left

  • DBSTrader2DBSTrader2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭✭
    derryb:

    Unfortunately, I doubt all the coin collectors/dealers on this Forum or elsewhere make up an even INSIGNIFICANT percentage of each Congressman's constituency so as to sway them into wasting their time & effort to push this bill........ not when they can be making so much more per hour accepting corporate graft or pandering to the fears/wishes/prejudices of the larger voting blocs they actually need to get re-elected. I seriously doubt voters would be shocked and dismayed to learn their Congressman did nothing to stop Chinese fakes from appearing on the coin market. From our perspective, it's an important issue. From the perspective of the remaining 99% of the electorate, it's nowhere on the radar...............

    - - Daveimage
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,619 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>derryb:

    Unfortunately, I doubt all the coin collectors/dealers on this Forum or elsewhere make up an even INSIGNIFICANT percentage of each Congressman's constituency so as to sway them into wasting their time & effort to push this bill........ not when they can be making so much more per hour accepting corporate graft or pandering to the fears/wishes/prejudices of the larger voting blocs they actually need to get re-elected. I seriously doubt voters would be shocked and dismayed to learn their Congressman did nothing to stop Chinese fakes from appearing on the coin market. From our perspective, it's an important issue. From the perspective of the remaining 99% of the electorate, it's nowhere on the radar...............

    - - Daveimage >>


    You don't know until you put it on your representatives radar. I know people who don't vote because it's just one measly vote.

    No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left

  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    Nice! Great thread, Don. image
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You don't know until you put it on your representatives radar. >>

    Don't know about your reps, but none of mine have ever given any hint that they gave a sh*t about the things I tried to put on their radar.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For your eyes only image
  • pakasmompakasmom Posts: 1,920
    Done. Thanks Don!
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unfortunately my congressional district "....does not have voting representation" currently (due to a resignation).

    Someone else please pick up the slack and send this on to your representitive.

    "As your constituent, I urge you to sign on as a co-sponsor of H.R. 5977, “The Collectible Coin Protection Act.” The bill was introduced on June 12 by Reps. Lamar Smith and Fred Upton, chairs of the Judiciary and Energy & Commerce Committees, respectively.

    The bill provides a means whereby US citizens can take legal action against purveyors of the high-quality counterfeit US coins entering our marketplace from China by expanding enforcement power of The Hobby Protection Act. The Hobby Protection Act has been in effect since its passage in December, 1975, but lacks enforcement power that HR 5977 now provides.

    HR 5977 is revenue neutral and contains no controversial issues."

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you for this, Don. Message sent.
    Lance.
  • Sorry,my last post should have been here.

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