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Are the 1979 Topps Hockey Wax Pack Trays real or are they an after-market creation?

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    I've been told by many people that Topps never produced Hockey Racks in 1979.

    Here is a good article to read.
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've been told by many people that Topps never produced Hockey Racks in 1979.

    Here is a good article to read. >>



    I concur with my esteemed colleague from New York. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    "1979- BB, FB, Hockey (Note: there is considerable debate, based on the pricing circle and codes on the back of the trays and cello wrap, as to whether 1979 Hockey trays were produced by Topps or by a resealer)"

    So they're saying the little white circle with the "cent" sign is the tell for these trays?
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"1979- BB, FB, Hockey (Note: there is considerable debate, based on the pricing circle and codes on the back of the trays and cello wrap, as to whether 1979 Hockey trays were produced by Topps or by a resealer)"

    So they're saying the little white circle with the "cent" sign is the tell for these trays? >>



    I personally only collect unopened baseball, but I would be interested in studying the codes on the back of the trays. I'm guessing it would be similiar to the codes on the back of the regular cello packs. Codes ending in "8" are wrappers for 1978 and 1979, etc., etc.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stay away. There is some debate as to whether Topps ever issued them, but regardless most of the ones you see up for sale are counterfeit.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Stay away. There is some debate as to whether Topps ever issued them, but regardless most of the ones you see up for sale are counterfeit. >>



    It wouldn't have anything to do with Gretzky would it???
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Stay away. There is some debate as to whether Topps ever issued them, but regardless most of the ones you see up for sale are counterfeit. >>



    It wouldn't have anything to do with Gretzky would it??? >>



    I always thought it was Gordie's last card, LOL..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Stay away. There is some debate as to whether Topps ever issued them, but regardless most of the ones you see up for sale are counterfeit. >>



    It wouldn't have anything to do with Gretzky would it??? >>



    I always thought it was Gordie's last card, LOL.. >>



    Actually, it was the first year cards for the old WHA teams. Plus, Bobby Hull was the man. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • jimradjimrad Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
    I collected several of the wax trays over the years before I heard of all the negative possibilities.
    I ripped all but one of my trays after so many questioned their validity.
    I am not convinced of anything because I did pull a Gretzky from a tray pack, however I will say that
    the quality of all cards that I have ripped from tray packs are usually 6 or 7 gradeable at best.

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  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    We've had discussions on this topic in the past and it's probably safe to say that '79 hockey trays (as well as '80-81 basketball trays) are fakes. I believe Steve Hart has confirmed it too.

    Look at it this way-- I bought my '79 tray 6 or 7 years ago and before that I had never seen one before. If '79 trays were legit they would have been a hot item at least dating back to the late '80s when hockey cards got hot (though considering the Gretzky rookie, I imagine they'd have been a desirable item for most of the '80s). Ditto for the '80 basketball trays that still occasionally show up.
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