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NickcapNickcap Posts: 977 ✭
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I have a few Morgans in my Registry Set that are AU58 and CAC'd.

If I wanted to have these regraded and put into the PCGS Secure Plus holders, does the certification number change?

Also, do I need to resubmit them for CAC Verification?

Some of my Morgans are the only ones CAC in AU58. I don't want to increase the CAC Population shown for my AU58s.



The reason I want to get these coins regraded is because I am trying to get the AU58+ grades in PCGS and a few of my coins may upgrade that "+".

Any advice would be great.
Morgan Everyman Set
Member, Society of Silver Dollar Collectors.
Looking for PCGS AU58+ 1901-P, 1896-O, & 1894-O

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You would get new cert numbers and have to send back to CAC.

    You can get a plus on a non secure holder.

    If you take a full holder shot CAC may re-sticker them but I am not sure once the number changes.


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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't believe you'd have to pay the "Secure Plus" grading fee to take a stab at the plus. You could just send them in for regrade...of course you also then "risk" the chance of a full upgrade, and it sounds like the 58 grade is pretty important to you.

    I'm not sure there is any way to have them considered for a + without also risking a larger upgrade.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,324 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a few Morgans in my Registry Set that are AU58 and CAC'd.

    If I wanted to have these regraded and put into the PCGS Secure Plus holders, does the certification number change?

    Also, do I need to resubmit them for CAC Verification?

    Some of my Morgans are the only ones CAC in AU58. I don't want to increase the CAC Population shown for my AU58s.



    The reason I want to get these coins regraded is because I am trying to get the AU58+ grades in PCGS and a few of my coins may upgrade that "+".

    Any advice would be great. >>



    Your cert numbers will most likely change. They will likely need to be resubmitted to CAC with no assurance that the coin will bean at the new grade [if the grade changes].
    theknowitalltroll;
  • NickcapNickcap Posts: 977 ✭


    << <i>I don't believe you'd have to pay the "Secure Plus" grading fee to take a stab at the plus. You could just send them in for regrade...of course you also then "risk" the chance of a full upgrade, and it sounds like the 58 grade is pretty important to you.

    I'm not sure there is any way to have them considered for a + without also risking a larger upgrade. >>



    Your right about the the full upgrade. I would actually be upset if some of these coins came back as MS60 or even higher.

    Problem is I don't have a convient coin dealer that can help me in grading them to see if any should be submitted for upgrades, but that is a topic for another day.

    Morgan Everyman Set
    Member, Society of Silver Dollar Collectors.
    Looking for PCGS AU58+ 1901-P, 1896-O, & 1894-O
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,324 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You would get new cert numbers and have to send back to CAC.

    You can get a plus on a non secure holder.

    If you take a full holder shot CAC may re-sticker them but I am not sure once the number changes. >>



    The coin is in the CAC database under a certain cert number. If the cert number changes [even tho the grade may not] you'd still need to resend to CAC.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Which raises the question, they have a box for Minimum Grade...how about if you put in a "maximum grade" on your submission form?
  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Personally I wouldn't submit for re-grade. I think the AU58 grade is hard enough to achieve, even with nice coins. The AU58+ grade seems very elusive, based on my observations. If the coins are nice they should re-sticker but CAC will most likely just add a new count to the pops. If you care about this, I wouldn't follow through.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you regrade through the normal service or SP, the coin will be cracked, reevaluated, and reslabbed with a new cert#. The CAC bean will be lost.

    You would need to resubmit it to CAC. I'm not sure of the procedure to let CAC know about the old cert# that no longer exists so that CAC can adjust its database. But I'm sure there's a way.

    If you want these coins to stay AU58 don't have them regraded. Anything can happen, including a downgrade (along with a payout).
    Lance.
    Coin Photography Services / Everyman Registry set / BHNC #213
  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Which raises the question, they have a box for Minimum Grade...how about if you put in a "maximum grade" on your submission form? >>



    Hmmm, interesting thought for lowballers.
  • NickcapNickcap Posts: 977 ✭


    << <i>
    If you want these coins to stay AU58 don't have them regraded. Anything can happen, including a downgrade (along with a payout).
    Lance. >>



    I would hope the coins would not be downgraded if they were considered solid or higher in the AU58 range by CAC. But I understand what your saying.
    Morgan Everyman Set
    Member, Society of Silver Dollar Collectors.
    Looking for PCGS AU58+ 1901-P, 1896-O, & 1894-O
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    You already got the right information above, but I think it is a waste of time to regrade looking for the plus.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • sonoranmonsoonsonoranmonsoon Posts: 2,078 ✭✭
    The competition in the everyman sets must be getting pretty fierce.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,324 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The competition in the everyman sets must be getting pretty fierce. >>



    Not that many participants. The only way to improve on a 58 is with a +. The desire for Everyman Walkers seems to be dead.
    theknowitalltroll;

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