1986 and 1987 Procards

mcadams

Anyone here collect these? For the longest time, the only high dollar card here was the 86 Maddux and maybe the 86 Schilling, but I've noticed some big sales recently more broadly across the set. Lots of 1st cards of future HOFers here. I'm not sure of print runs, but I'm guessing its less than 10,000.

GDM67

I have the '86 Greenville Glavine (a couple of graded ones and a raw), an '86 Durham Ron Gant raw and an '87 Smoltz graded. They're really cool and attractive cards.

mcadams

The 86 set has 1st cards of Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Gary Sheffield, Curt Schilling, Randy Johnson, Larry Walker, Ken Caminiti Long list..... 87 set has 1st card of Bernie Williams I believe as well.

I've read a few blogs that indicated print runs were in the neighborhood of 5k. Still haven't found a definitive answer on production though.

mcadams

dontippet

Back in the day, they seemed more plentiful than a print run of 5,000, but I really don't know. I remember whent eh Modesto McGwire surfaced, everybody thought they were ultra rare. I remember seeing one at my local card shop and the owner wanted $50 for it or he would trade it for a Donruss rack pack with an Eric Davis rookie on top.

Time4aGansett

Great topic, and yes, these sets are nice and loaded with stars. I collected many of the sets back in the 80's chasing the hot rookies. I then got out of the minor league market at its peak, and traded all my sets for a case of '89 Score football. Did real well on that trade.

Funny, as a few weeks ago I thought about posting a buy/trade post to acquire the complete run of 1986. Didn't think I would get any response.

From what I can remember, the individual team sets had different print runs. More popular teams, or teams with hot prospects had the highest print runs, while the lower level single A teams had the smallest print run. I do remember some of the bigger minor league dealers from that time selling full runs for $999. Wanted to purchase at that price, but as a teen, money didn't grow on trees.

A great resource for minor league sets were the 1986-1990 monthly issues of Tuff Stuff, when it was the large newsprint edition. The extensive news and price guides were invaluable. I am sure if another board member has any of these issues they could verify this. Alas, I tossed all my back issues, and have yet to find them since.

I remember the hottest set at that time was the Columbia Mets (Gregg Jeffries). Wish I bought and kept some of the Peoria sets

Hank36

This was a few years later, but I do know that in 1995 or 1996, Procards would give each player a large number of copies of their own cards--I'm guessing maybe 500 or so.

mcadams

<< <i>This was a few years later, but I do know that in 1995 or 1996, Procards would give each player a large number of copies of their own cards--I'm guessing maybe 500 or so. >>



I've never heard that, but its a possibility. Even if they did this back in the 80's, that doesn't change the fact that these are far rarer than most of these player's percieved "rare" RCs. Take Maddux for example- People flock to his 87 Topps Traded Tiffany.... there were 30,000 of those sets produced. Not sure about the production of 87 Fleer Glossy, but I'm guessing its similar. I believe Maddux 86 Procards production to be somewhere between 5k and 10k.

Now the 86 Maddux has always been appreciated and the prices rightly reflect that. But more broadly in the set......compare the production of Randy Johnson's 86 card or his 87 ProCards Jacksonville issue pictured above....compare those to 89 Upper Deck. Heck even compare it to Johnson's 89 Topps Tiffany. Again, 89 Tiffany had a production run of 25k and I think those cards in psa 10 go for what...$500 - $750?

Ditto for the other sure-fire and potential HOFers mentioned earlier.

mcadams

Two '86 Smoltz have sold in the $200 range the last few weeks.

mcadams

Another very cool 1st card in the set