The 2005 auction description includes this "...the 1851 and 1852 Seated Dollars have much in common. Both have extremely low business strikes for Philadelphia Mint dates, just 1,300 and 1,100 pieces, respectively."
I'm not very familiar with these coins, but the use of the term "business strikes" confuses me because this is a restrike proof. Was the mintage for this coin 1,100 pieces?
Yes, the same coin. I used to own it as part of my seated dollar proofs, but sold them all to build the MS set. The restrikes are not part of those original mintages. I think the estimate is 50-60 for the restrikes.
The coin in person was as nice as the image - I always thought it should be a 64.
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<< <i>Yes, the same coin. I used to own it as part of my seated dollar proofs, but sold them all to build the MS set. The restrikes are not part of those original mintages. I think the estimate is 50-60 for the restrikes.
The coin in person was as nice as the image - I always thought it should be a 64. >>
A 64? From the TrueView images I would grade it PR69 CAM!
I bought the 1852 restrike S$1 at Norweb ($35-40K?). It graded PR65. Pretty sure I sold it to JD before I paid for it. This piece is sooo much prettier! A shame the obscured scratches don't show up, but this piece really is sooooooo much prettier!
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<< <i>A 64? From the TrueView images I would grade it PR69 CAM! >>
If the True View was used all by itself in an eBay Auction...or any auction for that matter, I think the coin would be returned due to a SNAD. I imagine the coin looks a lot more like the BROWN coin shown in the 2005 auction, not the bright white with rainbows in the true view. I do not understand why this is done. People will think PF63 coins are actually PF69 coins! The true view is a significantly over exposed set of images that I doubt represent what the coin looks like in hand. I could be wrong...but if the coin wasn't over exposed by multiple stops in the true view then you would see why it is a 63...or 64 as TDN refers to it. Neat coin but for my cheap, low-budget, widget-dreck coins I always want photos that look like the coin in hand...I would not want them returned to me if I ever sell them online.
Reference Photos from the 2005 auction:
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Actually, in this instance the coin looked more like the True View than the Heritage images. The in holder image is somewhat accurate, but add the lively Amon Carter electric blue that was readily apparent at all angles.
That's the nice thing about electric blue - you can see it at most every angle instead of just one.
An amazing coin. That is why I love this place as I cannot play in the deep end of the pool, yet I can appreciate the coins of those who do! While not poor, the idea of this coin or a new E Class Mercedes puts it in perspective for those of us who enjoy the hobby at a different level. Once again, great coin TDN!
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OK PCGS PR63,,,, I had to write down the cert number,,,,,, go to Cert Verfication page and type in the number to find out the grade,,,,,, that is 45 seconds of my life that I will never get back
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I'd love to see it in hand, and shoot realistic images. Looks gorgeous.
Lance.
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love it
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<< <i>Oh wow! Spectacular.
I'd love to see it in hand, and shoot realistic images. Looks gorgeous.
Lance. >>
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?hdnJumpToLot=1&saleNo=382&lotNo=10267&x=0&y=0#Photo
<< <i>Oh wow! Spectacular.
I'd love to see it in hand, and shoot realistic images. Looks gorgeous.
Lance. >>
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<< <i>http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?hdnJumpToLot=1&saleNo=382&lotNo=10267&x=0&y=0#Photo >>
The 2005 auction description includes this "...the 1851 and 1852 Seated Dollars have much in common. Both have extremely low business strikes for Philadelphia Mint dates, just 1,300 and 1,100 pieces, respectively."
I'm not very familiar with these coins, but the use of the term "business strikes" confuses me because this is a restrike proof. Was the mintage for this coin 1,100 pieces?
What is the current estimated rarity rating?
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The coin in person was as nice as the image - I always thought it should be a 64.
It's a nice coin!
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
wow
you bet...simply amazing to behold such a beauty
thanks for sharing
<< <i>Any idea when these restrikes were actually struck? >>
Supposedly throughout the course of several years, clandestinely and without official authorization, in the 1860's.
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
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But this one deserves it.
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<< <i>Any idea when these restrikes were actually struck? >>
Supposedly throughout the course of several years, clandestinely and without official authorization, in the 1860's. >>
Im guessing in the 1870s when allot of patterns and restrikes were being minted.?
<< <i>Yes, the same coin. I used to own it as part of my seated dollar proofs, but sold them all to build the MS set. The restrikes are not part of those original mintages. I think the estimate is 50-60 for the restrikes.
The coin in person was as nice as the image - I always thought it should be a 64. >>
A 64? From the TrueView images I would grade it PR69 CAM!
In any case, that is one beautiful coin.
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Some of us have been waiting for TDN's collecting skills to mature.
Slowly but surely he's getting the hang of it.
<< <i>Some of us have been waiting for TDN's collecting skills to mature.
Slowly but surely he's getting the hang of it.
Yeah I'll miss the day when TDN no longer = Total Darn Newbie
<< <i>Incredible specimen. I also love the OGH. >>
If it was TrueViewed, it is not in the OGH anymore.
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<< <i>Incredible specimen. I also love the OGH. >>
If it was TrueViewed, it is not in the OGH anymore. >>
10-4. It was in an OGH back in 2005 when it sold at Heritage in San Fransisco. Beautiful coin!
<< <i>10-4. It was in an OGH back in 2005 when it sold at Heritage in San Fransisco. Beautiful coin! >>
I agree . . .
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<< <i>A 64? From the TrueView images I would grade it PR69 CAM! >>
If the True View was used all by itself in an eBay Auction...or any auction for that matter, I think the coin would be returned due to a SNAD. I imagine the coin looks a lot more like the BROWN coin shown in the 2005 auction, not the bright white with rainbows in the true view. I do not understand why this is done. People will think PF63 coins are actually PF69 coins! The true view is a significantly over exposed set of images that I doubt represent what the coin looks like in hand. I could be wrong...but if the coin wasn't over exposed by multiple stops in the true view then you would see why it is a 63...or 64 as TDN refers to it. Neat coin but for my cheap, low-budget, widget-dreck coins I always want photos that look like the coin in hand...I would not want them returned to me if I ever sell them online.
Reference Photos from the 2005 auction:
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
That's the nice thing about electric blue - you can see it at most every angle instead of just one.
It seems like this would be a good idea so that when you see the photo you know instantly what the coin graded.
JMHO, GrandAm
Darn nice coin though
GrandAm