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Oldest Rookie Card to Ever "Knuckle Up?"

otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
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I'm guessing R.A. Dickey may take the cake with regard to an active player...

His '97 Chrome had been gaining interest, but after back-to-back one-hitters, they've jumped from a typical buck or two to a quick $7-10 per... Guess it would be worth it to go through the old boxes and dig out a nice count for a solid return on a 37 year-old finally hitting his "prime."

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Scott ... RA has been UNREAL this year. Back-to-Back complete game ONE HITTERS! I THINK he has about 43 consecutive innings pitched without giving up an earned run. I know you are a Yankee Fan (at least I think you are) but even a Yankee fan can appreciate what he has been doing! If not for him the Mets might be in last. Would be GREAT to see him continue pitching the way he has been.

    EDITED TO ADD:If he keeps this up, it would be nice to see him join Tom Seaver and Doc Gooden (twice) as the only NY Mets pitchers to start an All-Star Game. He would then have the opportunity to be the FIRST MET pitcher to WIN an All-Star game.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

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  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    I'm enjoying his performance and I think they way he throws and the control he has of the knuckleball, I don't think it is a fluke and at 37, he's still got a few years left...
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Scott ... without looking it up, I can't remember a knuckleballer having the friggin control that he has. 103 Ks and 21 BBs.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Doug, don't jinx it now, LOL.

    Usually when a knuckleball pitcher finally figures it out, he is pretty consistant for a good 5 to 7 year stretch at least. Better cash in the Dickeys at the end of the year just in case Scott as he is set up for a great year and the frenzy will only get worse if he can win the Cy Young.
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    HAHA Mike. How the hell have you been? I think I have 2 more WOLTERS PILSNERS left from Father's Day to suck down before hitting the sack! LOL
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    Doug

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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think I have 2 more WOLTERS PILSNERS left from Father's Day to suck down before hitting the sack! >>



    I wish I could stop by and help you with those but I'm cut off for tonight as I hit my pre-bed limit.

    Everything is good, just really busy at work.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Had about 35 people (including the kids) over for Father's Day yesterday. Went out and bought a couple of cases of beer to make sure I had enough. Well, a few people brought beer with them. Turns out I had 50 bottles/cans remaining at the end of the night. THAT'S why I have to stay up a little later tonight! LOL
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    If you took a drink every time they said "Dickey" on ESPN tonight, you would be lying in a puddle of puke by now...
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you took a drink every time they said "Dickey" on ESPN tonight, you would be lying in a puddle of puke by now... >>



    I like that Jeff, well everything but the puking part. image

    Doug, we'll have to try that next time me, you and Eric meet up.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭
    RA's knuckle is like no other. He throws his pretty hard for a knuckle ball. Fact is, he can do it with different speeds which is phenomenal. He has incredible control with it. How he hasnt been a better pitcher throughout his career is beyond me. Im happy for him though!
  • miconelegacymiconelegacy Posts: 3,052 ✭


    << <i>RA's knuckle is like no other. He throws his pretty hard for a knuckle ball. Fact is, he can do it with different speeds which is phenomenal. He has incredible control with it. How he hasnt been a better pitcher throughout his career is beyond me. Im happy for him though! >>



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  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭
    Let's hope he gets the start in the AS game!
  • 123Slider123Slider Posts: 851 ✭✭
    I worked a camp with him many, many years ago and was impressed with how he was dealing with his draft fiasco. For those that don't remember:

    " A first round selection out of the University of Tennessee, he was set for a big pay day, having agreed to a signing bonus of more than $800,000. That was until a photo on the front of Sports Illustrated alerted the Rangers medical staff to an..abnormality if you will, in RA’s right arm. That abnormality was the lack of an ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) in his elbow, which greatly impacted his suspected ceiling as a professional pitcher. The discovery not only cost him significant money, reducing signing bonus to only $75,000"

    Great to see him having success now.
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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm almost more impressed by the man behind the knuckle ball... I saw the ESPN spot about how he was sexually abused as a child and how he has struggled with it over the years.

    Video: ESPN E:60
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Jeff ... thanks for sharing. Heard about it but did not watch it until now. Very interesting interview.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • richtreerichtree Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭
    R. A. < ----- without looking............................

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    The dude named his game bats "Hrunting" and "Orcrist the Goblin Cleaver."

    As any geek (like me) will tell you, that's pretty f-ing awesome! image
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  • thekid8thekid8 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭
    He was the speaker at my son's Little League dinner last year and he had the whole room in his hands ~~ he was able to talk to the kids and adults at the same time -- I have not seen anyone do that in a long time ~~ imagine 200+ kids from 8 to 16 and every adult hanging on his every word --- completely upbeat and inspirational. His life/baseball story so far is arguably the best baseball one out there right now. (plus he is a Met)
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>He was the speaker at my son's Little League dinner last year and he had the whole room in his hands ~~ he was able to talk to the kids and adults at the same time -- I have not seen anyone do that in a long time ~~ imagine 200+ kids from 8 to 16 and every adult hanging on his every word --- completely upbeat and inspirational. His life/baseball story so far is arguably the best baseball one out there right now. (plus he is a Met) >>



    Thanks for sharing Mike and +1 for him being a Met!!!
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    The last few weeks, I've been paying more attention to R.A. Dickey since he's on my fantasy baseball team. The points have been adding up.

    Watched him pitch last night for an extended period of time. Slow motioned his pitches and it was amazing to me how much some of them bounced around in mid air. Literally, some of the batters were just frozen--they weren't sure where the ball would land. That kind of movement coupled with 80 mph makes him almost unhittable when he has the knuckleball going. The story behind the man is both tragic and inspirational, and he seems like an amazing human being.

    Being a climber myself, I remember his ascent of Kilimanjaro back in January. I think he was raising money for a human trafficking charity which was a very noble thing for him to do. I hadn't realized at the time that the Mets had threatened to void his contract if he was injured. Still, he accomplished the climb--deciding that bringing attention to this issue was more important than his contract. That right there speaks volumes about the man.
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I hadn't realized at the time that the Mets had threatened to void his contract if he was injured. Still, he accomplished the climb--deciding that bringing attention to this issue was more important than his contract. That right there speaks volumes about the man. >>



    I also liked how he handled the whole situation with the Mets threatening to void his contract. Instead of lashing out at them over it, he handled it very professionally and said he understood their concerns instead of whinning about the club's treatment of him. Class act all the way.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Guess it would be worth it to go through the old boxes and dig out a nice count for a solid return on a 37 year-old finally hitting his "prime." >>



    Fortunately he's a knuckleballer so he has about 10 more years in him before he has to hang 'em up!
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  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> Guess it would be worth it to go through the old boxes and dig out a nice count for a solid return on a 37 year-old finally hitting his "prime." >>



    Fortunately he's a knuckleballer so he has about 10 more years in him before he has to hang 'em up! >>



    The difference between Dickey and other knuckleballers is that he probably won't be able to pitch into his mid-40's. He doesn't throw his pitch at 60 MPH like Wakefield, Neikro, Wilhelm or any of the others before him. He pumps it to the plate in the low to mid-80's! That suggests that he needs a "young" arm.

    His success is that he is able to control the pitch more so than those before him. He can actually hit spots with it and the "new" pitch he's developed allows him to elevate the pitch into an area that was once forbidden. The old phrase, "If it is low, let it go. If it is high, let it fly" doesn't really apply to him, hence his increasing success the past 2+ seasons as he's worked to perfect the pitch.
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