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Who and what attracts kids to the National

Recently while at our local mall my 10 year old son and I stumbled upon a card show. I walked threw this one before with him but he has never showed any interest. I was looking at a Clemente RC with a vendor and my son walked over to me and said dad i found something i like. I ended up buying him the 2012 Topps MLB sticker book with 20 packs of stickers and couldn't wait to see him open them and apply them to the book. The vendor said my son was so polite and patient that he gave him 2 free packs. He was so excited and spent 2 hours opening and putting the stickers in the book. I was happy as well because he never showed any interest in my collection which is all hockey with a few Clemente's

I thought this is my chance to take him and his friend to let them see a huge show like the National in Baltimore in August and possibly meet an athlete that they have heard of to sign something. I checked the autograph schedule to see if he recognized anyone and he did (Ovechkin) and he just canceled!
This leads me to the point, My son knows 1 person out of all of the athletes at the National. My son plays baseball and hockey and watches Quick pitch and NHL on the Fly so he knows younger players. He asked why there are no younger players available and I told him that its very hard for MLB players to be there in the middle of the season but i wander why they wouldn't have more young NHL players or even possibly switch the National to the off season to get the younger kids like my son who watch Harper, Strasburg, Crosby and any young MLB or NHL player out there more excited for the show.
It seems like the shows are for much older people and Athletes that appear to sign are for a much older demographic as well. We need to have a balance at these big shows for kids and adults to keep the hobby alive and well. Anyway, my son would never complain about it, we will try and complete his sticker book, buy some packs and get some of my cards graded at PSA . TB

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  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭
    I think with kids, you have to get them interested in current players and modern cards. They can't watch Clemente on TV and won't ever be as interested in your heroes as you were. Use modern cards to supplement their love of MLB. Have them bust a few packs and give them an ATTAINABLE goal of working on a team set. Do this this year and next and then you've got an inexpensive small-time collecting focus. If his interest takes off, maybe the next step is starting a basic registry set for a current modern player. I am going to do this with Brian McCann and my son in a few years. If your childs interests don't grow, at least you've got the annual ritual of putting together a team set each year. Even that will create some good times for you guys to share.
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  • ToroToro Posts: 1,515
    Agreed, it's all about adults and promoters want their money. I cant imagine why younger athletes wouldn't want to go to a large show during the off season, that is, if it's sold to them correctly. The issue would be the promoters and price of the autograph......Tim Lincecum, Sidney Crosby, Bryce Harper at $140 to $200 plus an auto? Seems steep....I'd rather take my chances at a game or practice.
  • Kid4hof03Kid4hof03 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think there is a simple answer. My 11 year old son plays baseball and basketball and watches sportscenter and MLB TV constantly. He loves the Yankees and we have a small season ticket package and he love nothing more than going to games. This year will be our 3rd year in a row going to the National together, he doesn't collect very much mordern stuff at all. His collection is filled with Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Don Larsen, and other older Yankees. He collects low grade stuff and saves his gift money all year for the national. The first year he went with a goal of a 1961 Roger Maris, he got that and a few others. Last year it was a 1956 Mickey Mantle, he found a PSA 1 with great eye appeal and that turned into his birthday present from me so he spent his other money on 1956 Yankees and Yankees McFarlanes. His favorite set is 1956 Topps so he buys low grade commons whenever he can. His autograph requests have been Yogi Berra, Chis Chambliss, Don Larsen and Reggie Jackson.

    Now, most people assume that he collects this stuff because of me but the truth is I don't collect stuff as old as he does. My collection is mostly 1970's to present. I believe this interest started with me being a big Yankees fan but it has grown because of how much he reads. He constantly reads biographies of baseball players and baseball teams and that is where his interest has grown. In his collection he has cards from 1909 to present, some have been gifts but most have been him saving his money and buying low grade. He loves his collection and I think it is just great, we get to spend a lot of time together with a common interest as well.

    All of that is to say, I don't know who is supposed to attract kids to the National, each kid is different and those that are interested should be given an opportunity to enjoy it, the kids that aren't interested, you certainly can't force them and I'm not sure you can figure out how to cater to them so they gain interest.
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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    The baseball offseason is November through part of February. That's a really bad time for conventions in much of the country. Even if the convention were in a warm-weather city (e.g., Anaheim), the chance of bad weather preventing people in the Northeast or upper Midwest from even getting to the convention is significant.

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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    I also have started my kid with stickers, he's pretty young but still gets excited about the "shiny one's" and enjoys doing it with me. Part deux will be cards, my wife isn't excited about that part! image
  • benderbroethbenderbroeth Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    as a kid i did not collect but started when i was a teenager, i have always loved old stuff (always will) i collected both current and old cards back in high school, and it lead me to enjoy the older cards...
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  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
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  • What i try and do with my kids is just sit back and watch and see what interests they have and then go with it. My son loves Knex coasters and Legos and my daughter loves to be outdoors and ride bikes and skate boards. As far as collecting i started about 12 years ago with vast majority of my collection being one player. They both have seen me with my cards but never showed much interest. I was ok with that because i never want to force my kids to like something and let them make their own choices. When he showed and interest in the stickers, i went with it.
    As far as short skirts and tops I do not want to go there. We all know what those two things lead to. My son is only 10 and he notices that stuff already. He is very close with his mom so thats all i need!!!
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    I'm by no means an expert but would think that a lot of kids are not real big hockey fans and the modern players of today with the exception of the superstars (Crosby, Ovechkin, etc) might not draw enough folks who would want their autographs to make it worthwhile. I haven't done a show for awhile but when I did my understanding was that it cost a lot to just have the players show up, even if they were not the superstars. And this is for all sports. About ten years ago I heard that a player to show up would cost minimum 2K for the average joe, so to speak...and the stars were even more. Another thing that really turns me off about the current player autos is that you can't read the majority of them when they sign...if I want chicken scratch I'll go to a farm....but that is a topic for another thread....
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    pokemon.
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    what does the Charizzard auto go for nowadays??
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