can someone explain???????

cuse

What is the purpose of submitting modern cards for grading? Everyone and their brother still has complete sets in 800 count boxes in their closets. I brush off plenty of people that tell me they have "old" cards. Quiz them a bit and you find out it's 80s and 90s junk. I just don't understand it.

bishop

I assume because everyone has a different agenda and budget for what and why they collect

markj111

Different strokes for different folks. I assume they are chasing PSA 10s.

PowderedH2O

Not every modern card was put out by a big company in a big set. I have Police cards, stadium giveaways, and oddball cards that are well worth grading. I mostly collect vintage, but I certainly do not ignore the present.

cuse

Good point about Regional issues and the non-traditional sets. I really don't even follow baseball anymore until the playoffs. So, I guess I'm a bit out of touch with modern collecting.

I was primarily wondering about the late 80s , 90s etc.??? Hoards of this stuff are all over the place. I would imagine there is still gobs of unopened stuff too. This modern crap flooded and ruined the hobby once. I was wondering if something similar might drag down the graded card market?? Probably not...

NCDOLFAN

Not many collectors have the money to waste on a bunch of cards of players they never saw play and couldn't care less about. Most of us started collecting our heros as boys and although the "moldy oldy" cards are cool to look at, it seems to this collector that there is always an abundance of Mantle, Ruth and Cobb carp that the prices just don't seem justified. This hobbiest will keep it a hobby and not a dow jones investment.

JustinsShoebox

<< <i>Good point about Regional issues and the non-traditional sets. I really don't even follow baseball anymore until the playoffs. So, I guess I'm a bit out of touch with modern collecting.

I was primarily wondering about the late 80s , 90s etc.??? Hoards of this stuff are all over the place. I would imagine there is still gobs of unopened stuff too. This modern crap flooded and ruined the hobby once. I was wondering if something similar might drag down the graded card market?? Probably not... >>



You're now starting to come down the stretch where some of those 80s and early 90s players are going to be HoF eligible very soon. Loading up on their (of actual potential candidates) rookies in slabs is not a bad idea for a collector. It does add value to those cards and may add value to the collector as well.

Here are some of the players that are eligible for the HoF in 2013: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Craig Biggio, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa, Mike Piazza, Kenny Lofton, David Wells, Julio Franco, Shawn Green, Steve Finley, Roberto Hernandez, Jeff Cirillo, Jose Valentin, Reggie Sanders, Jeff Conine, Jose Mesa, Royce Clayton, Bob Wickman, Ryan Klesko, Aaron Sele, Woody Williams, Rondell White, Mike Lieberthal, Tony Batista, Mike Stanton, Sandy Alomar Jr., Damian Miller, Todd Walker

Most of the above can be found in your late 80s early 90s sets.

Justin

cuse

What I'm getting at is there is no rarity to the generic modern era cards. Everything certified post 1980 from the generic Topps etc. sets should be a 9 or 10. Show me vintage 9s and 10s and I'll be impressed.

An abundance of moldy oldy crap??? High grade??? If you got it, you got $$$$$. Yes, it can be an investment. What my dad told me 30+ years ago as a coin and stamp dealer translates to sports cards. That is: If u buy junk...you own junk.

Talk to all the guys holding those 80s and 90s sets. Ask them how that investment worked out for them...lol

If you collect strictly for enjoyment...please ignore my comments.

JJacks

I will agree with you in general. However, there are the exceptions, such as Jeter SP RC PSA 10s going for well over $10K(!). I do think that is crazy, as it's not even the only 10 or anything in the first place.

On the other hand, someone who is not a collector at all could very well laugh at old cards as well - heck even that holy grail type 1952 Topps Mantle is really just a small piece of cardboard when it comes right down to it - why is it really worth anything much? If some people found an unopened box of 1952 Topps baseball, they'd probably throw it away!

For that matter, I know people who don't know anything about gold, and have no idea why a person would buy it - I try to explain it to them, but they just go on with their lifes, collect a paycheck, pay bills, etc. They have no absolute need for gold. So a person could ask why any such item has value:
Rare cards
Rare coins
Rare paintings
Rare autographs of famous people
etc, etc.

It's not all about value or being impressed or anything.

One more thought - I was born in 72 and grew up watching Dorsett (my first favorite player) Marino, Montana, Emmitt, Puckett, Griffey, etc. I certainly appreciate the older players, but never once saw Rose, Mantle, Clemente, Carew, Unitas, Starr, etc. during a live game even on T.V. So, getting a card of those players might mean less to some people who never even saw them compared to players they did see.

Edit: Oops - I think I do remember watching Pete Rose in his final season or so! I wasn't a baseball fan until I got a bit older - was more of a football fan - I kind of have a faint memory of watching a few Staubach games and the 81 NFC Champ game.

JJacks

mexpo75

You never know why people buy what they do. Just look at some prices you see every once in a while on ebay.

Toro

<< <i>. Everything certified post 1980 from the generic Topps etc. sets should be a 9 or 10. >>



I take it you haven't broken a case or box of the eighties stuff and submitted them to PSA for grading. It's not a guarantee and never has been. The closest to every card coming out Mint or better are with the current Topps Finest/Pristine/etc. Either way, as mentioned above, people have different focuses. I'd rather pay $12 for a PSA 10 Bo Jackson from the nineties than bust a box, send it to PSA and hope for a 10.