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not mine...on northeast...if i had the scratch it'd be mine...enjoy anyways if you do...gotta love the ..."E T" on his head (call home)
and the fitting ...NE CENT reverse for a northeast coin...image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most of the F/O D/S Wheatie examples seen are dated in the 1950's so seeing a 1940's is neat-o! image
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    COOL!
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • blue594blue594 Posts: 550
    I really like that cent. For some reason it appeals to me on many levels.

    John
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw that one as well. It's a nice example, but the price was a bit much for me.
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    very high eye appeal! image
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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like that one.
    Many happy BST transactions
  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where was it listed?

    What was the selling price?

  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Where was it listed?

    What was the selling price? >>



    it's listed at $1,350

    it's listed at the website on bottom of image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Where was it listed?

    What was the selling price? >>



    it's listed at $1,350

    it's listed at the website on bottom of image >>



    That's actually very reasonable as some F/O D/S raw AU Wheaties in fluke auctions have crossed EBay fetching upwards of $3K.
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,977 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is indeed one of the coolest Lincoln errors I've seen....
    Though errors aren't really my thing, I like this one a lot!!! Some errors I find facinating. This fits into that camp!
    It's the position of the E and T on Lincolns head that make it so interest an almost artistically aesthetic.... I love it!!

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool ,I mean "Kool" coin,teddy! Is it a lamenated variety?

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  • GManGMan Posts: 790 ✭✭
    Ok help me out here. Looks like a flipped over double struck coin but what happened around the "O" on the reverse?
    GMan
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
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    Becky
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ok help me out here. Looks like a flipped over double struck coin but what happened around the "O" on the reverse? >>



    The O in the field on the second strike didn't take do to the high profile of the back of Lincoln's head on the first strike.

    Got lucky contact wise with the top of the C as Lincoln's body profile is of lesser height.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that is neat looking.
  • GManGMan Posts: 790 ✭✭


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    << <i>Ok help me out here. Looks like a flipped over double struck coin but what happened around the "O" on the reverse? >>



    The O in the field on the second strike didn't take do to the high profile of the back of Lincoln's head on the first strike.

    Got lucky contact wise with the top of the C as Lincoln's body profile is of lesser height. >>



    Thank you! I can see that now and it makes perfect sense. What a great error coin.
    GMan
  • lloydmincylloydmincy Posts: 1,861
    Not a bad price for that...
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  • lloydmincylloydmincy Posts: 1,861
    Realone - Not me... I usually pay waaaay over for a coin - no, I am not the consignor. If it sticks around, I might just get it...
    Edited to add: Broadstruck STILL has not said anything is a steal...
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK so which of you guys owns it ie is the consignor?
    Suspect #1: I have never seen Broadstruck say anything was a steal!
    Suspect #2: NWcoast, if that is one of the coolest Lincoln errors he has ever seen, does that make him a REAL Lincoln afficionado?
    Suspect #3: Crazyhounddog who we definitely know can afford it, so if he thinks it be cool..........?
    Suspect #4: Lloydmincy who also believes it is listed for "not a bad price".

    Hmm, all the suspects are under investogation but are not officially suspects, just person's of interest until I can get a better handle on their whereabouts during said coin was listed.image >>



    Yes I said Reasonable... A Steal would have been around $750.

    Nevertheless it's Sold and I didn't expect it to hang around long.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Short lived , but an awesome coin. Teddy, how about a PM next time ? I have a dealer friend who would have loved that and I doubt he will ever see it now.
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Short lived , but an awesome coin. Teddy, how about a PM next time ? I have a dealer friend who would have loved that and I doubt he will ever see it now. >>

    Yeah, Teddy? How about you PM all of us before you post it? image
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,362 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well forgetting that it is on hold, since that doesn't prove worth, an idiot could have gone for it. How rare would this coin be considering 1945 was a high production year to say the least. And what would you believe the true value be forgetting what was being asked for it? >>



    Realone, some things are worth a lot of money to some people. A dealer came to my shop one day and sold me a clad Kennedy half struck on a dime planchet for $250. When I said, "This is going to PCGS", he said, "Let's split the deal when you sell it as a condition of this sale ". I agreed, though I did not have to.

    After it was put into the holder it sold for $1800. A lot of people think that's stupid. It's okay. We are entitiled to our view. I'm sure the farmer who found it was happy to get $100 for it.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well forgetting that it is on hold, since that doesn't prove worth, an idiot could have gone for it. How rare would this coin be considering 1945 was a high production year to say the least. And what would you believe the true value be forgetting what was being asked for it? >>

    You're an angry little spud today, aren't you? image

    While not an expert on Lincoln errors, this is the first F/O, D/S I have seen from the 1940s with so much evidence of the first strike. The price was too much for me, but I would have been a buyer in the $700 range (the Official Broadstruck Steal Price ... I gotta trademark that!). If I was still teaching the error class, ... I probably would have jumped on it because of its educational value.
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>After it was put into the holder it sold for $1800. A lot of people think that's stupid. >>

    And I bet is sold quickly at that price, too! Kennedy on dime strikes are tough pieces!
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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Realone:
    I am admittingly not an error collector or Lincoln expert by any measures. I do collect Lincolns- in a Dansco. I search bank rolls too.
    I do not collect errors though I won't pass them up if I were to find them in a roll.
    I am not connected to this sale..

    I think it's cool because the position of the letters on Lincolns temple remind me of the bolts in the head of the Frankenstein Monster and I think the Frankenstein Monstr is image

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  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭
    Some people like blast white coins with the aid a 20x loupe may be able to make out the faint underdate. Some like toned or rainbow coins... Some like it all!
    WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love it! These things make me laugh.
    Lance.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was looking at the mintage of the 1945 1 cent 1,000,000,000+ wow. I got to believe there are many more of these types of errors. Why does most here feel it went cheap? How rare are these errors? >>


    realone
    i do not reply to any of your threads...i do not like you at all...that's called respect
    learn some...hint
    only you could drop in with such bs...upholding any n all reasons why i do not respect you
    as donald sutherland always said in kelly's hero's
    "what is with all these negative waves"
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw this error yesterday and hesitated. Too long! Sold and now I regret it. Stunningly cool and beautiful error, no doubt!
    (It probably sold to someone at the Long Beach coin show...)

    peacockcoins

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in Long Beach ---but apparently I'm selling my
    Material too "reasonably".!
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
    for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was looking at the mintage of the 1945 1 cent 1,000,000,000+ wow. I got to believe there are many more of these types of errors. Why does most here feel it went cheap? How rare are these errors? >>



    Most the flip over double struck wheat cents are seen in lower grades and occasionally a CH BU from the 50's.

    Some teens and 20's might be in VG to VF on average, whereas you'll see later dates on average into the AU range.

    Then it gets down to the level of detail that remains from the first strike as some require a loupe just to see anything, whereas others as this example are dramatic to the naked eye.

    As a whole there's most likely tens of thousands of less F/O D/S 1909-58 errors combined then 55 DDO varieties... Yet the 55 DDO commands more attention do to successful marketing since it's discovery.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Broadstruck, thanks, your last sentence is a little confusing, are you saying that there are 10's of 1,000's of these types of errors in the Lincoln series ? >>





    I wish I had the exact answer for you Realone as far as rarity, but I do not know how many exist.

    We do know that there's over 30,000 55 DDO's out there, so I'm saying IMHO there's tens of thousands less.

    Michael Kolman in the late 1950's wrote great book on Flying eagle, Indian and Lincoln Cent Errors.

    This book provided a tad bit of insight on the scarcity of certain dates depending on the error type during the infancy of error collecting.

    Unfortunately no one has continued his work in 50 years.

    I'd like to say that within the last decade when I was actively collecting Lincoln Wheat errors by date I've seen probably less then 50 F/O D/S and a few being duplicate dates from the early to late 1950's.

    I strongly doubt that it would be possible to collect F/O D/S by date and mint mark as some dates do not exist.

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • lloydmincylloydmincy Posts: 1,861
    I don't recall EVER seeing a 1940's one, let alone such a (decent) nice one. SO I think it is relatively rare. It sold fast, and I bet is sells for $2000 soon, easily.

    The Kennedy struck on a dime planchet? Yes, worth $1800, and more. If struck on a SILVER dime planchet? $2500 minimum...

    Ask Fred how many he has seen in the 40's? I bet very few. Even 10, this is worth $1500.
    To compare rarity - A 1965 quarter struck on a Silver planchet, in AU58 can go for $9000 and up. There's a lot more than 10 around...
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is how I personally judge rarity on such an error:

    1) Having searched and looked at tens of thousands of coins, just like all of us here, over the years, have I seen one like this?
    2) If the answer is "NO": RARE!
    3) If the answer is "YES", I followup that question with, have I seen one with such detail and strike and eye appeal?
    4) If the answer to that is, "NO": RARE!

    5) If the answer is "YES" then I kind of move along...

    I have never seen such a coin as the OP and thus consider it rare (and thus desirable).

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ^
    I'd love to see it!
    (Just showing an X for me...)

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    peacockcoins

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this it?

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  • SullivanNumismaticsSullivanNumismatics Posts: 842 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure, but I think that might've been a coin I sold to NE. Great coin, and pretty rare.
    www.sullivannumismatics.com Dealer in Mint Error Coins.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm not sure, but I think that might've been a coin I sold to NE. Great coin, and pretty rare. >>



    Can't be since NEN states it was "recently repurchased from a client", so you must be mistaken. Any way since you state "I'm not sure" and they state what they did in their description as being certain enough to put it in writing in their description they must be correct on this one. >>



    -Or-

    SullivanNumismatics could have sold it to them originally before they sold it and repurchased it from the existing client imageimage
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