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Am I right in thinking this is a counterfeit?

commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
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Link to eBay item.

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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    Well, something is not right! That sellers other auctions indicate someone who should at least call "this" XF

    Eric
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks fake to me, too.
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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am thinking fake, counterfeit and not real. Not even a good one.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like a poorly done cast counterfeit as there's more overall wrong then just the funky looking mint mark.

    Editted to add:

    I just noticed comment in the description 1912 s "Raw" Key Date Liberty Nickel . No opinion as to the gradeability. and also was shocked to see who the seller was image
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  • CollectingMachineCollectingMachine Posts: 71
    It's fake to me.
  • NewParadigmNewParadigm Posts: 1,322
    The rims give it away
  • zas107zas107 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭
    It is definitely counterfeit.
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    I would be extremely displeased if that came out of the Frisco Mint.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,287 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like a poorly done cast counterfeit as there's more overall wrong then just the funky looking mint mark.

    Editted to add:

    I just noticed comment in the description 1912 s "Raw" Key Date Liberty Nickel . No opinion as to the gradeability. and also was shocked to see who the seller was image >>



    I'm also surprised and shocked to learn who the seller is.
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    Hello,

    Apart from the obvious problems, the Obv and Rev have very different wear and surface appearance.

    Best wishes,
    Eric

    Edit to add: This seller has almost 17,000 positive feedbacks with 8 neutrals, 4 withdrawn and apparently no negs? This all sounds very wrong.
  • TallGuyTallGuy Posts: 122 ✭✭
    No question, not genuine.
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    That's not genuine IMHO.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Definitely ctft.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This seller has almost 17,000 positive feedbacks with 8 neutrals, 4 withdrawn and apparently no negs? This all sounds very wrong.


    17,000 sales doesn't make someone in expert in everything. Sounds like he made a mistake. It happens.
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭


    << <i>This seller has almost 17,000 positive feedbacks with 8 neutrals, 4 withdrawn and apparently no negs? This all sounds very wrong.


    17,000 sales doesn't make someone in expert in everything. Sounds like he made a mistake. It happens. >>



    Hello,

    I did not mean to infer seller is an expert simply by repetition. I just meant that the usual seller of this kind of goods often has a different feedback profile.

    Best wishes,
    Eric
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It has the look of some of the modern counterfeit twenty-cent pieces I have seen out of China.
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  • MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for the feedback and emails. I got a consignment from a repeat consignor and honestly didn't give it a second thought. I have informed him that I wont take anymore raw coins from him. I apologize and stopped the auction imediately.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thank you for the feedback and emails. I got a consignment from a repeat consignor and honestly didn't give it a second thought. I have informed him that I wont take anymore raw coins from him. I apologize and stopped the auction imediately. >>



    Accidents happen, and you did the right thing by it.

    However, in this day and age of massive counterfeiting, you have to look closely at everything you buy and sell.
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    No good
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that looks real bogus to me as well. no bids either so thats a good thing
  • VMRCCVMRCC Posts: 79


    << <i>I apologize and stopped the auction immediately. >>




    Gotta respect that.
  • yellowjacketyellowjacket Posts: 1,809 ✭
    Misshapen stars, incomplete devices, and overall funky look makes this easily a counterfeit. I agree that it's probably a cast.

    Thanks for sharing.
    Garrow
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,228 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Misshapen stars, incomplete devices, and overall funky look makes this easily a counterfeit. I agree that it's probably a cast. >>



    Quite possibily struck from a cast die.

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  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps we should all relax -- seller has posted, auction has ended, all is good. Let's look at past history and realize that the nooses can be replaced in the cupboard and the astute observations by our Forum members have led to a positive outcome.

    Time to move along . . . . . all good now.

    Drunner
  • MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
    I learned a valuable lesson on this one.
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  • harveypbharveypb Posts: 514 ✭
    The size and shape of the numbers in the date are WRONG....
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    My first thought when seeing the ebay listing, was that Mr D was just trying to get our attention. He did manage to get this interesting thread started.
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