There is simply nothing worth reading here anymore.
Wabbit2313
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I really wish Silver would have stayed at 50, and flushed the whole market.
Now.................BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does the 64-D Peace exist..............You guys would know before us! MAN.
Wait, yes, I have one.
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Specifically concerning your own post above, I'd say your assessment is spot-on.
Plugged is a funny word.
peacockcoins
there are posters that blow my socks with acute knowledge in just about every nook n cranny of this hobby and they freely post it up
no one asks ya stay is all i got to say about that
i love my buddies here and the in depth knowledge that abounds as well as the laffs n chuckles that happen...only here
<< <i>The word, "plugged' was used in another thread (regarding the 1796 Bust dollar).
Plugged is a funny word. >>
I think OP is referring to the PCGS newsletters...I hope...
<< <i>perhaps you can start an interesting thread for us >>
Well, if this thread is any indication of the talent the OP possesses to do so, I wouldn't be holding my breath.
peacockcoins
3 minutes is a very long time for me to hold
we shouldn't put too much into it
it is simply a post without merit
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Instead, I have to read about the boring history of old southern gold, the crude minting of early American copper, see images of 200 year old bust silver, listen to tripe about Mint errors and exotic rarities.
This forum isn't worth my time, I agree.
Lance.
And yes I also wish that silver had stayed in the 50 range. I might have sold all of my silver if it had. Yet there is this urge to buy and I am holding out until it goes down a little more.
EAC 6024
All I can say is "Be the change you wish to see in the world."
well now I can tell everyone.The minted 1964D peace dollars werent destroyed...they are using them to mint the 2012 s pfs and reverse pfs,but dont tell anyone else
<< <i>There is always the stamp forum. >>
That's low
I guess I am frustrated. This hobby is dying a slow death.
There is not going to be a new coin found. (64-D) Of the last 150 coins plus I submitted, many came back terrible.
My point, melt the 64's and below, reset, and see what happens. Proof sets would also be melted.
What else can save us???
<< <i>I really wish Silver would have stayed at 50, and flushed the whole market.
Now.................BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does the 64-D Peace exist..............You guys would know before us! MAN.
Wait, yes, I have one. >>
Me too (see Dan Carr).
type2,CCHunter.
<< <i>I guess I am frustrated. This hobby is dying a slow death.
There is not going to be a new coin found. (64-D) Of the last 150 coins plus I submitted, many came back terrible.
My point, melt the 64's and below, reset, and see what happens. Proof sets would also be melted.
What else can save us??? >>
Promote the hobby to family and trusted friends and their children.
Most comments are negative. As usual when someone tells the dealers that change is needed.
PCGS, (I am a long time customer), decided to stop grading coins fairly in the conventional holders. To have them graded in the new (Secure) holders, you had to break them out, something that seems WAY wrong to me. If you did and were lucky, you received as much as a 2-3 point upgrade. If you have a coin in the old holder, are you going to risk a KID regrading your coin?
Stop lying to yourself's here! Sucure coins are getting WAY better grades, but you roll the dice that the 18 year old grades it right! Have you all looked at the secure coins by chance? Have you looked at the upgrade results on this site??
<< <i>I guess I am frustrated. This hobby is dying a slow death.
There is not going to be a new coin found. (64-D) Of the last 150 coins plus I submitted, many came back terrible.
My point, melt the 64's and below, reset, and see what happens. Proof sets would also be melted.
What else can save us??? >>
That's nobody else's fault. Not the hobby or the TPG you sent it to. Sorry if this is harsh, but maybe you should learn to grade and identify problem coins before buying coins to send in.
Edit: inb4 OP ban
<< <i>I am not sure if he is upset by too high or too low grades??? >>
Sounds like he's upset with only getting a "2-3 point upgrade"
>>My point, melt the 64's and below, reset, and see what happens>>
This is the most idiotic thing I've read in a while....
www.brunkauctions.com
I rest my case.
I am not going to call any of you "Idiots". (In return.)
What I said stands.
Cheers and Goodnight.
The article is titled "The Joys of Collecting" by Q. David Bowers.
Cherrypick for Quality
<< <i>This OP has many classic lines to pick apart, but I think the one below is my favorite:
>>My point, melt the 64's and below, reset, and see what happens>>
This is the most idiotic thing I've read in a while.... >>
I would imagine you have a down turn in business. If I was your customer, that would be the case.
Not everyone of us is an Idiot by the way.
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<< <i>I really wish Silver would have stayed at 50, and flushed the whole market.
Now.................BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does the 64-D Peace exist..............You guys would know before us! MAN.
Wait, yes, I have one. >>
It's a simple yes or no question, man
Some of us are intriqued by the existence of certain "coins". What do you like about numismatics ?
Maybe Sanction II should ask it.
After all, Izzy Switt had ten 1933 Double Eagles. I didn't know before the government knew.
How many mules do you suppose were made ?
Any idea how come there is no master die matching those "High Leaf" or "Low Leaf" 2004 D Wisconsin quarters ?
Do you know of any more 1958 Doubled Die or 1969 S Doubled Die coins coming out ?
It's all relevant. The market and hobby is not dying, it's morphing. >>
Now.................BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does the 64-D Peace exist..............You guys would know before us! MAN.
Wait, yes, I have one.
*Not sure what you mean by ‘flushed the whole market’ but I have always found die-hard bullion fans to be a little quirky (you know, in a ‘doomsday prepper’ sorta way) As a rule of thumb the general health of an economy can be gauged (inversely) by spikes and dips in the precious metals market. I don’t wish ‘silver would have stayed at $50’ because of what that says about overall confidence on the broader scale.*
I guess I am frustrated. This hobby is dying a slow death. *A hobby should be an escape from frustration. Perhaps this hobby is not right for you*
There is not going to be a new coin found. (64-D) * New varieties and 'discovery coins' are being found all of the time* Of the last 150 coins plus I submitted, many came back terrible. *I would argue that those coins were probably ‘terrible’ when you submitted them. Do you think PCGS sprinkles some magic dust on them, thus making them terrible? I think your frustration comes from not knowing how to grade coins.*
My point, melt the 64's and below, reset, and see what happens. Proof sets would also be melted.
What else can save us???
Most comments are negative. As usual when someone tells the dealers that change is needed.
PCGS, (I am a long time customer), decided to stop grading coins fairly in the conventional holders. To have them graded in the new (Secure) holders, you had to break them out, something that seems WAY wrong to me. If you did and were lucky, you received as much as a 2-3 point upgrade. If you have a coin in the old holder, are you going to risk a KID regrading your coin?
Stop lying to yourself's here! Sucure coins are getting WAY better grades, but you roll the dice that the 18 year old grades it right! Have you all looked at the secure coins by chance? Have you looked at the upgrade results on this site??
*Totally unfair to attack a company’s personnel in this way. By the way, 2-3 point upgrades have never been the norm in this hobby and that shows how out of touch you are.*
I rest my case.
I am not going to call any of you "Idiots". (In return.)
What I said stands.
Cheers and Goodnight.
*There is, of course, a difference in calling you an idiot and saying your comments are ‘idiotic’ (although, upon further review……)*
I would imagine you have a down turn in business. *That is a chance I will have to take* If I was your customer, that would be the case. *Many of the coins we sell are graded less than an MS-65 and should therefore be melted, please do not consider purchasing them*
Not everyone of us is an Idiot by the way. * That’s why I was very specific to single you out*
www.brunkauctions.com
<< <i>I guess I am frustrated. This hobby is dying a slow death. >>
Every generation of collectors has said this since coin collecting started to rise in the early 20th century. Look back through numismatic publications and a lot of the "old men"* whined that there is no young people to carry on the hobby (which is a euphemism for nobody to buy their coins when they get even older). In fact, one of the loudest laments by to the ANA by its members is to get more young people in the hobby so that the hobby remains strong ... another "nobody may be around to buy my stuff because my family doesn't care" euphemism.
*Sorry, but not a lot of women in the hobby 100 years ago ... or they just didn't complain!
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>Stop lying to yourself's here! Sucure coins are getting WAY better grades, but you roll the dice that the 18 year old grades it right! Have you all looked at the secure coins by chance? Have you looked at the upgrade results on this site?? >>
Have you ever actually interacted with any of the graders? If not, then how in the world can you condemn them? Just because somebody is 18 doesn't mean they can't grade or detect counterfeits. Just because you have difficulty with grading doesn't mean "that 18 year old" will have trouble. You may be surprised who on these Boards is a "kid."
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
i should be part of the solution, not the problem.
"There is simply nothing worth reading here anymore."
2 words, AR-CHVIES
if anyone here can't find something worthwhile to read in the old posts, they probably suck as searching or have no place in numismatics
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i should be part of the solution, not the problem.
"There is simply nothing worth reading here anymore."
2 words, AR-CHVIES
if anyone here can't find something worthwhile to read in the old posts, they probably suck as searching or have no place in numismatics
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No doubt, or go to the precious metals or another sub forum. Hell I like to occasionally look at the metal detecting sub forum, sometimes they pull up some nice stuff.
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As best as I can tell the OP is participating in the hobby to make money (to supplement the income he/she earns from his/her primary job; or maybe as a full time dealer whose entire income derives from the hobby) and is not making the amount of money that he/she needs/wants.
If the OP has a case of the "I am not making enough money" blues, his/her posts in this thread is nothing more than a gripe session about his/her current situation. These posts voice complaints on a variety of topics/issues (grading; no new coins to be found; silver spot price too low; dying hobby; 18 year olds grading your coins; melting all proof sets and coins 64 and below [does he/she mean that all coins dated 1964 and earlier should be melted; or that all coins grading MS 64 and below should be melted? (either suggestion would be a disaster if implemented)]; Secure Plus; and many of 150 coins submitted for grading coming back terrible [does he/she mean the many of the coins come back from the TPG damaged; or that many of the coins came back with grades below what the submitter expected/wanted?] and evidence a person who maybe should either:
1. take a break from the hobby and devote his/her time, energy and resources to some other endeavor/employment that is not as frustrating; or
2. step back and objectively analyze what he/she can do or should do to strengthen his/her skill set [i.e. become better at grading and choosing which coins to submit to TPGs]; and/or change his/her business model to increase the income and decrease the outgo.
In any event, good luck to the OP in weathering the down turn in business.
The suggestion of searching for archived threads for topics of interest that are informational and educational is a very good one. Some of the current threads may seem to be repetitive and uninteresting but the archived threads cover a broad range of topics and there is always something helpful that can be brought to the surface simply by inserting a key word in the search box and clicking your mouse.
Not to mention monumentally silly , i remember a long thread here recently concerning AU coins Vs MS coins and those AU coins came out of the debate looking the better for it in almost every instance that was posted.I too am too confused by what the OP is saying other than as Sanction points out perhaps a gripefest.
<< <i>I just can't wait to read about silver coming back! How exciting.
Instead, I have to read about the boring history of old southern gold, the crude minting of early American copper, see images of 200 year old bust silver, listen to tripe about Mint errors and exotic rarities.
This forum isn't worth my time, I agree.
Lance. >>
I collect coins to make money, as do all of you. Here come the Nay Sayers.
When my 18 year old is presented with my collection, I will educate her on what it is worth.
If you do not do the same, someone is going to sell your collection to the fools who are posting the negative comments here. You will be dead, and these goof balls will own all your stuff.
Don't get mad at me just because I hope I am still alive to buy your coins as well!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!
THIS I admire.....Good for you!
www.brunkauctions.com
<< <i>I collect coins to make money, as do all of you. Here come the Nay Sayers.
When my 18 year old is presented with my collection, I will educate her on what it is worth.
If you do not do the same, someone is going to sell your collection to the fools who are posting the negative comments here. You will be dead, and these goof balls will own all your stuff.
Don't get mad at me just because I hope I am still alive to buy your coins as well!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!! >>
You invest in coins. Do not confuse that with collecting coins.
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
Where is that TradeDollar guy when I need him? He is looking to make money at the end of the day I think.
LOL!