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1853-O no arrows half-dime on Ebay-arrows removed?

rec78rec78 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Hello - This 1853-O no arrows half dime appears to me that the arrows have been removed. I could be wrong. What you think?

Ok maybe its a filled die? It just doesn't look right-The date position is wrong, etc., for an 1853-O NA. Half dime experts- opinions please!!!. Thanks.
Bob
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe I can see one of the barbs and the shadow of the right hand arrow. Good eyes!
  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    I think I would stay away from that coin. Suspect raw rare coins are always a red flag.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    Rec78 is quite correct. I have already contacted the seller. The supposed 1853-O "No Arrows" half dime has had the arrows removed. The right arrow is partially visible, and remnants of the left arrow can also be seen. As Rec78 points out, the date is in the wrong position, and on a genuine example the date would be very weakly struck, particularly at the bottom of the 5 and 3 (lower right). Also, on a genuine example, the mint mark would be double struck, with strong evidence of the repunching at the top. I informed the seller that the authenticity of the coin could be positively determined by simply weighing it. A genuine coin would weigh 1.34 grams, while one with the arrows removed would weigh 1.24 grams, with adjustments for wear. Of course, this would mean breaking the coin out of the 'slab', but for this self slab, that should not be too much of a problem.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Top photo is the auction. Others are '53-O from Coinfacts.

    Looks pretty clear the auction is for the erased-arrows version.
    Lance.

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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    The seller graciously removed the coin from the auction after my initial contact, and becoming convinced that the coin had, in fact, been altered. I think that giving him the link to this forum helped to persuade him. I am convinced that he truly did not know that the coin was not genuine. Good work all around; no feelings were hurt, no tempers were aroused, and no unwary buyers were burned. That's how these things are supposed to go.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well done! Nice set of comparison photos, Lance. image

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