Success stories of anyone that has submitted a PSA 9 for regrade and gotten a 10

ClockworkAngel

So as I've ventured back into the hobby and investing in cards, after a very long hiatus, I have learned a lot from many of you in my brief time here. The Dmitri Young auction and thread has convinced me to resubmit a few of my 9's that I see no flaws on back to PSA a couple times and see if I get lucky.

I don't remember the card, but I read an interview with Dmitri where he said he submitted a card 3 times into PSA before finally getting the 10 from a 9.

I have a Fouts RC, Rickey henderson RC, Winfield RC, and Rice RC that I feel have a shot and I plan on sending them. Looking for some inspiration and success stories from anyone that has had this happen

fur72

Never done it myself but know high dollar cards can sometimes be resubmitted dozens of times just to get a .5 bump. Sometimes a .5 bump could equal tens of thousands of dollars.

tsalems1

Not a high dollar card but it took me 3 times to get the correct grade

46 1 19655343 GEM MINT 10 1977 O-PEE-CHEE 4 STOLEN BASE LEADERS B.NORTH/D.LOPES pop 1 Card cracked out of a 9 holder twice!

MrVintage

<< <i>Not a high dollar card but it took me 3 times to get the correct grade

46 1 19655343 GEM MINT 10 1977 O-PEE-CHEE 4 STOLEN BASE LEADERS B.NORTH/D.LOPES pop 1 Card cracked out of a 9 holder twice! >>



I guess I'm kinda playing devils advocate here but if they graded it a 9 and it took 3 times to get a 10 wouldn't a 9 be the more accurate grade?? lol

tsalems1

I guess you could say that on any card that gets a bump. Fact is many people dont know how to grade OPC because of the cuts on them. This card is as nice
as it gets and knew it should be in a 10 holder. They got it right the 3rd time

MeteoriteGuy

I would more say cards very rarely fit exactly in the scale.

Most cards would be for example, a PSA 9 80% of the time and a PSA 10 20% of the time. In this example, if a card is $200 in 10, and $50 in 9, it makes dollar sense to resubmit until you get then 10. Submitting it 5 times to get the 10, still clears a $100 extra.

grote15

I've done it six times on a review sub with 1975 minis..

MrVintage

Oh yeah it defintetely makes sense from a financial point but it always makes me wonder anytime I buy a PSA 10 card how many times was it graded a 9 before it was a 10?

Hank36

<< <i>Fact is many people dont know how to grade OPC because of the cuts on them. >>


So the problem isn't only with OPC hockey....

tsalems1

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<< <i>Fact is many people dont know how to grade OPC because of the cuts on them. >>


So the problem isn't only with OPC hockey.... >>



Nope, its just as bad with baseball

grote15

<< <i>Oh yeah it defintetely makes sense from a financial point but it always makes me wonder anytime I buy a PSA 10 card how many times was it graded a 9 before it was a 10? >>



The difference between a 9 and a 10 is often so negligible that a lot of 9s could be 10s on a different day and vice versa. As long as grading is done by human beings, it's going to be a subjective process to some extent. All 9s certainly are not equal in eye appeal, so the ones you want to submit for a potential bump should be high end to begin with, obviously...it also helps when you become very familiar with a particular issue and know what to expect as far as grading goes..

edit to add: 70s OPC baseball grading is often especially tough for the reasons Tom pointed out..

MrVintage

Makes perfect sense fellas......I'm gonna crack and submit a few cards myself whenever it looks like PSA gets caught up a bit more....

ClockworkAngel

You guys recommend cracking the card open and submitting without the case?

yankeeno7

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<< <i>Oh yeah it defintetely makes sense from a financial point but it always makes me wonder anytime I buy a PSA 10 card how many times was it graded a 9 before it was a 10? >>



The difference between a 9 and a 10 is often so negligible that a lot of 9s could be 10s on a different day and vice versa. As long as grading is done by human beings, it's going to be a subjective process to some extent. All 9s certainly are not equal in eye appeal, so the ones you want to submit for a potential bump should be high end to begin with, obviously...it also helps when you become very familiar with a particular issue and know what to expect as far as grading goes..

edit to add: 70s OPC baseball grading is often especially tough for the reasons Tom pointed out.. >>



+1

Review the card yourself first. If you really feel like corners, centering, registration, etc are strong enough and you could actually visualize that card in a 10 holder, I say resubmit. I even once had a 7 go to a 9 but I knew the card would never pull off a 10.

thehallmark

<< <i>You guys recommend cracking the card open and submitting without the case? >>



YES!! And it's usually best to submit other cards from the same set as well.

captainthreeputt

I sent in a 1961 Golden Press Eddie Collins that was in a PSA 9 holder. It was worth at the time between $150-200. Came back a PSA 10 which at the time was worth $1200. It became a pop 2. Now there are 6 and worth much less. Should have sold it.

Hank36

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<< <i>Fact is many people dont know how to grade OPC because of the cuts on them. >>


So the problem isn't only with OPC hockey.... >>



Nope, its just as bad with baseball >>


I have to ask...I'm relatively new to these boards and I've wondered several times how PSA approaches the various OPC cutting, um, "techniques", whether it be the parallelogram cut or the Fisher-price kiddie scissors cut. Is it simply that PSA has never devised a uniform approach?

I guess I had thought that it was merely a matter of hockey cards getting less scrutiny--I'd also wondered how PSA approaches those black rub-off blobs on the 1980 Topps hockey cards and got the sense that it was merely a combination of collector and PSA indifference.

davelinkbelt

I have never sent a card in for grading, I know BGS will show the 4 grades on the label. Does PSA send anything in paper showing how they graded the card?

mariotown

<< <i>I have never sent a card in for grading, I know BGS will show the 4 grades on the label. Does PSA send anything in paper showing how they graded the card? >>



PSA doesn't send anything indicating why the card received the grade it did.

radman

Is there a concern of damage to the card related to cracking, resubmitting, recracking, etc?
Even the most minimal of a corner bump would guarantee the card won't get a 10.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the board members have tales of woe, in which a 9 was 'damaged' in the resubmitting process......

Rudedawg

<< <i>I sent in a 1961 Golden Press Eddie Collins that was in a PSA 9 holder. It was worth at the time between $150-200. Came back a PSA 10 which at the time was worth $1200. It became a pop 2. Now there are 6 and worth much less. Should have sold it. >>



Ouch, talk about a set where 9's have a good chance of going to 10's There may be a few 10's, but that's still a GREAT card to have.

@Clockwork, I think Dmitri's auction raised a good amount of interest in this issue.............just be careful with your cracks

ClockworkAngel

Never done it. Gonna practice on one that is somewhat worthless....

Is it possible to reseal after it's been cracked? I guess that creates a whole different set of problems of scammers on eBay

bking

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<< <i>I have never sent a card in for grading, I know BGS will show the 4 grades on the label. Does PSA send anything in paper showing how they graded the card? >>



PSA doesn't send anything indicating why the card received the grade it did. >>



Don't they do it now on reviews??

ClockworkAngel

At the end of the day, I am struggling with cracking these 9's open and sending them in to get an 8. I have been disappointed so often by PSA, that it just wouldn't shock me for it to backfire and get an 8 instead of a 10

olb31

1979 Pete Rose OPC POP 1
1978 Pete Rose OPC POP 2
1979 Tony Dorsett