Why do morgans generally tone on obv

tonedase

I have noticed that the majority of toning when real and not AT is on the obverse side of coin...is there a reason for this...
thanks ahead for any responses that I may get...I need to step out to the golf course for the rest of day...I will check this evening for the cause of toning on obv sides...
jiimes

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WTCG

Based on years of observations I disagree. The majority of toned Morgans I'm offered have reverse toning.

WingedLiberty1957

from what I have seen, the split is about 50/50

there are a lot of reverse toned morgans out there (a number are on ebay right now) ... they are generally less expensive that obverse toned morgans.

steveben

if it is true, which i am not sure about...then i would theorize that it's due to the way they are stored or displayed...usually obv up.

bigjpst

I would have to say that a majority of Morgan dollars have the toning on the reverse. Bag toned probably close to 50/50, end roll toned close to 50/50. The only difference would be the album toned dollars I've seen seem to get a toning that covers the whole reverse, and just a bit of rim toning on the obverse. That being said, it seems that coins with nice obverse toning command a premium over those that have reverse toning. Unless the coins reverse is really wild, and is slabbed reverse up. JMO

blu62vette

I tend to see reverse toners more also. I could see the perception they are more obverse toners though. I could be that more of the reverse toners have been dipped since it was on the wrong side.

BAJJERFAN

As far as bag storage, it is statistical dumb luck that it tones on one side or tuther. Coins stored in albums would naturally be expected to tone mostly on the reverse side. IMO some coins look better with the toning on the reverse.
Like this one.

PerryHall

There's an equal likelihood that one side or the other is in contact with the canvas storage bag making it a 50-50 proposition.

Tiny

After 30 years of collecting toners I think there is no certain percentage on
which side of coin gets toned. Perhaps your reasoning is due to you pay
more attention to the obv because you like them more. Let's just say it's
the flip of the coin.

phnatacc

Even if you were able to show some statistical reference that weighted the ratio in favor of the obverse, the observation I would take from that is that obverse toning is generally considered more desirable. Thus, more obverse toners make it to the general marketplace without being dipped.

kryptonitecomics

<< <i>There's an equal likelihood that one side or the other is in contact with the canvas storage bag making it a 50-50 proposition. >>



+1

TwoSides2aCoin

Toning in an album starts on the rim. In an envelope it's both sides equally. In a bag, it's a coin toss. There is not a written rule. In a felt case it seems to be the side exposed to the air which takes on toning, that might be why it seems it's on the obverse moreso. A lot of display cases get coins toned on the side being displayed. Boards are the same way, usually. It just depends, really.

AUandAG

I agree with Wei. Reverse much more often.

bob

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>I have noticed that the majority of toning when real and not AT is on the obverse side of coin...is there a reason for this...
thanks ahead for any responses that I may get...I need to step out to the golf course for the rest of day...I will check this evening for the cause of toning on obv sides...
jiimes >>



Alphabetical order, O before R!

Baley

Natural

<< <i>Toning in an album starts on the rim. In an envelope it's both sides equally. In a bag, it's a coin toss. There is not a written rule. In a felt case it seems to be the side exposed to the air which takes on toning, that might be why it seems it's on the obverse moreso. A lot of display cases get coins toned on the side being displayed. Boards are the same way, usually. It just depends, really. >>



Artifical toners favor the obverse, and have the most dramatic color transition zone that passes through the hair and roughly bisects the coin. This will usually occur on a BU common date coin and preferably displays "the proper progression"

CarlWohlforth

OK, but why does the reverse usually grade 1 or more points higher than the obverse?

pennyannie

<< <i>OK, but why does the reverse usually grade 1 or more points higher than the obverse? >>



I would say the cheek is the reason, the eagle on the reverse does not show every little break like the cheek.

NewParadigm

I usually find the reverse toned more often.

golfer72

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<< <i>OK, but why does the reverse usually grade 1 or more points higher than the obverse? >>



I would say the cheek is the reason, the eagle on the reverse does not show every little break like the cheek. >>

Think about it. Which side is exposed more in albums etc? The obverse. Thats why the obverse tends to get beat up more.

stealer

<< <i>OK, but why does the reverse usually grade 1 or more points higher than the obverse? >>


The tick marks show better on Lady Liberty than they do on the Eagle.

TwoSides2aCoin

I agree with Baley's assessment of the AT pieces on BU commons.

tonedase

Thanks to everyone for their input...and just to add something else...in my original question...I meant to say why to morgans tone more on rev then obv...lots of great answers...thanks again and everyone have a super evening
jiimes