1909 S Indian cent-I need some expert help

numbersman

Been buying some small collections lately "in the wild" and was given a bag of indian head cents (approximately 1500 of them) to make an offer.After painstakingly searching coin after coin,with about only 150 left,I find this coin.I have showed pics of it to a friend who feels,without actually physically examining the coin, the mint mark may be in question.I have physically examined it and I find no reason to doubt it is the real thing but now he's got me questioning it.Please let me know if there is conclusive evidence one way or the other(short of sending it out for authentication as I don't own the coin yet).Also,if I'm not pushing it,best guess at the grade would be greatly appreciated as well.THANKS in advance!

ThePennyLady

Hard to tell for sure, but looks ok. I would grade it Fine.

ThePennyLady

Here's a high grade one to compare it to.

lcoopie

Perhaps it has some env damage?

LanceNewmanOCC

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the MM has the correct position, but when i blow up your image it has too much pixelation to confirm authenticity
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numbersman

Lance,if you provide me your email address I can send you this same pic but a bit larger(without this site compression)and you will get a better looksie.

TwoSides2aCoin

Looks FINE to me and close to VF, but PCGS graders would be the experts. Or those ATS. or .... what Charmy said.

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LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Lance,if you provide me your email address I can send you this same pic but a bit larger(without this site compression)and you will get a better looksie. >>



lets try 1 thing first :-)

take the original image, probably a couple MB to a few MB in size.

drag it directly into paint, it should appear very large if your camera settings are for max resolution

you can zoom out allowing you to see the whole image

then select all the image and move it so that it removes the borders

after you do this for the obv/rev what you have left is the max resolution image without the borders :-)

the images will be quite large - guess all you need to post really is the reverse for now

good luck
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7Jaguars

Looks good to me...
Hello, quick acetone treatment....

LanceNewmanOCC

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ok

after many many comparisons as close up as the original images allow for

even though it is in the right position

i think authentication is required because the mm upon close inspection displays too many differences

i give it a 50/50 at this point
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MICHAELDIXON

It looks authentic to me. As a teenager I bought a counterfeit 09 S and learned the hard way.

cameron12x

I can speak for its authenticiy and whether it would slab.

As for a technical grade? To my eyes it looks to be in the VG-10 to F-12 range.

I like it.

AUandAG

Nice coin and real.

bob

coppermonger

That S looks a little odd to me... the top part of the S looks different from the bottom. I cropped and re-sized the photo, but I can't say for sure without a good close-up.



Edited to add picture

tlake22

nice pick up

DennisH

Looks real to me.

johnny9434

Nice, I like it