A bird, A plane, a Teagle? For the toned ASE fans...

blu62vette

This coin is a PCGS 69 and has one weird toning pattern!

airplanenut

If that's a plane, it's going to crash into a giant fireball... which may explain the toning

joeykoins

WOW! Does anybody see the cross? Nice coin,blu62vette!

Broadstruck

Ouch that image actually hurt my eyes when opening this thread

Great pic by the way once my eyes adjusted to it!

ajaan

Serious question. How does a 3 year old coin tone that way?

coolest

<< <i>Serious question. How does a 3 year old coin tone that way? >>



I was waondering the same thing.

It must have been cought in a hydrogen sulfide storm.

tlake22

very attractive

Pokermandude

Even if it is NT, I can't say I am a fan. Most toned ASE's don't do it for me at all. Especially when you see such a recent date like this with that wild toning.

Meltdown

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<< <i>Serious question. How does a 3 year old coin tone that way? >>



I was waondering the same thing.

It must have been cought in a hydrogen sulfide storm. >>



I make a few exceptions for questionable toning on silver eagles when they look like that. I think it's very cool looking.
The fact that PCGS slabbed it makes it a monster.

Baley

Yes, the standard toning pattern when a coin is resting up against the crease in the mint bag for several decades.

Or so we're told

Broadstruck

Aren't these just technically graded as bullion and the likelihood of AT or NT isn't taken into account

stman

<< <i>Serious question. How does a 3 year old coin tone that way? >>



Perhaps, very carefully.

JamesMurray

<< <i>Aren't these just technically graded as bullion and the likelihood of AT or NT isn't taken into account >>



I would hope so

blu62vette

<< <i>Serious question. How does a 3 year old coin tone that way? >>



When I have asked that I have been told these are pure silver and that changes how these tone. More reactive than other coins but there are much smarter people than me that would know more about that.

Bochiman

<< <i>Aren't these just technically graded as bullion and the likelihood of AT or NT isn't taken into account >>



Nope...not even close.
The toning is considered as to whether to slab it or GEN it.

That said, I don't like the look of this one.....I have seen them tone quickly and naturally, given their composition, but the way the colors are on this one, and the patterns, make me suspect heat induced, one way or another.

TWQG

Direct heat. That coin is a monstrosity.

coinsarefun

I like my T shaped toning better

coinsarefun

And Rainbow toned ones are nice too

RichieURich

Great ASE, Blu62Vette! I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

airplanenut

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<< <i>Serious question. How does a 3 year old coin tone that way? >>



When I have asked that I have been told these are pure silver and that changes how these tone. More reactive than other coins but there are much smarter people than me that would know more about that. >>

I agree, but not with a 3 year old coin and that much color. Silver is reactive, and when I see a coin from the late 80s or early 90s with colorful, even (not splotchy) toning, I'm not too suspicious. But colors this bold, especially on so new a coin, aren't explained by the reactivity of silver and any normal way these coins are stored.

airplanenut

I should also add that the ones I consider NT tend to be the same colors you're used to seeing on silver. Colors such as the yellow/blue and very dark blue/purple are suspicious to me whether the silver is 90% or 99.9%.

bestclser1

<< <i>I should also add that the ones I consider NT tend to be the same colors you're used to seeing on silver. Colors such as the yellow/blue and very dark blue/purple are suspicious to me whether the silver is 90% or 99.9%. >>

I do believe that Jeremy is 100% correct,but Mr.Braddick,you have some even crazier SAEs,any feedback?

coinsarefun

The coin is a MS69 cert number 24227729
and its a plate coin


Look pretty dang nice

Tootawl

A quick dip will probably fix that SAE.

Pokermandude

Maybe the "T" is for taco bell napkin? If you wrapped a napkin around an ASE I bet you could get that pattern almost exactly too.

Not to knock your coin, it is rather pretty (for a monster toned ASE). But I am very sceptical of how it got to be what it is.

Bochiman

<< <i>I should also add that the ones I consider NT tend to be the same colors you're used to seeing on silver. Colors such as the yellow/blue and very dark blue/purple are suspicious to me whether the silver is 90% or 99.9%. >>



I disagree that dark blue/purple would make it suspicious.
While I agree the pictured coin is not one I would be willing to stake my reputation on as I believe it was likely enhanced by heat, I have seen dark blue/purple on a number of NT SAEs.

Baley

See those smooth color transitions? witness the proper toning progression? view the vivid amber and neon pink and electric blue?

We've learned on here that these colors come from years and years and years of storage in a mint bag, and this one is certified, therefore, it was stored for many decades in a mint sewn bag.

QED

stealer

<< <i>See those smooth color transitions? witness the proper toning progression? view the vivid amber and neon pink and electric blue?

We've learned on here that these colors come from years and years and years of storage in a mint bag, and this one is certified, therefore, it was stored for many decades in a mint sewn bag.

QED

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Are you referencing to Sunnywood's threads? I would think the 10% of copper in circulating silver would cause a difference in the toning pattern but then again, I'm not a chemist.

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TheBigB

<< <i>See those smooth color transitions? witness the proper toning progression? view the vivid amber and neon pink and electric blue?

We've learned on here that these colors come from years and years and years of storage in a mint bag, and this one is certified, therefore, it was stored for many decades in a mint sewn bag.

QED

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I have seen mint workers carrying these bags...

Bochiman

<< <i>I didn't think the toning or the toning patter mattered much for bullion or moderns, does anyone pay a premium for such outrageous color/pattern? >>



And, you have been here for more than a few years now and you come into this thread (that has ASE in the title) and read all the posts and you ask that?
However, there have been MANY threads over the years where people post the SAEs that are toned and comment on them and the pricing?

Yes, toning does matter for NCLT/bullion/moderns. The amount of premium is what is at question.

SeattleSlammer

IMO that one is 100% baked. But PCGS will slab nearly all wildly toned SAEs with the odd exception here and there. Still, that example is striking to say the least and it would be fun to own.

JamesMurray

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<< <i>See those smooth color transitions? witness the proper toning progression? view the vivid amber and neon pink and electric blue?

We've learned on here that these colors come from years and years and years of storage in a mint bag, and this one is certified, therefore, it was stored for many decades in a mint sewn bag.

QED

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I have seen mint workers carrying these bags...

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AMRC

<< <i>Even if it is NT, I can't say I am a fan. Most toned ASE's don't do it for me at all. Especially when you see such a recent date like this with that wild toning. >>



Even if it is AT, I can say I am a fan. This toned ASE does it for me, when most don't. Amazed at how a recent date could have got so nice.

:-)

stealer

<< <i>IMO that one is 100% baked. But PCGS will slab nearly all wildly toned SAEs with the odd exception here and there. Still, that example is striking to say the least and it would be fun to own. >>


Time to get the oven fired up

On another note, it's sad PCGS is so receptive of monster-toned SAE's and so skeptical of nicely toned Peace $1's

coinsarefun

I have sent in many, many toned ASE's and they have not slabbed so IMO they are not that easy on them
as they are aware that these can and do bring huge premiums.

But that's just my experience

Bochiman

<< <i>I have sent in many, many toned ASE's and they have not slabbed so IMO they are not that easy on them
as they are aware that these can and do bring huge premiums.

But that's just my experience >>



Bingo!
Some of the comments are speaking without experience though...

braddick

Success has many fathers.
Failure has none.

bestclser1

<< <i>Success has many fathers.
Failure has none. >>

"Success is all luck,just ask any failure" Well thought out post my friend.

morgansforever

Sorta looks like rubber band toning. ASE's can tone rapidly, have a few in a Dansco that rim toned in a couple months.
Heck just leaving them on a window sill will tone em.

keyman64

I vote AT....but then again, if it is in a TPG holder, someone will be willing to pay for it.

PipestonePete

<< <i>Sorta looks like rubber band toning. >>



Here is a classic example of "rubberband toning". Several years ago I wrapped a number of ASEs in a variety of papers to see what the toning effect would be. Whatever paper was used for this particular Eagle was apparently much less reactive than the rubber bands which held the paper to the coin. The sulphur leeching through the paper reacted with the coin more so than the paper which was in direct contact.

stealer

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<< <i>Sorta looks like rubber band toning. >>



Here is a classic example of "rubberband toning". Several years ago I wrapped a number of ASEs in a variety of papers to see what the toning effect would be. Whatever paper was used for this particular Eagle was apparently much less reactive than the rubber bands which held the paper to the coin. The sulphur leeching through the paper reacted with the coin more so than the paper which was in direct contact. >>


I like that kind of floral pattern on the coin.

astrorat

<< <i>I didn't think the toning or the toning patter mattered much for bullion or moderns, does anyone pay a premium for such outrageous color/pattern? >>

Welcome to the Board, Rumpelstiltskin.

HighRelief

I really like the color pattern and color on this ASE. I could care less if it were AT or NT when they look like this.