Re-united and it feels so good.

Swampboy

I first posted this Lincoln cent in a thread back in March 2007 in which I asked the forum for info on what caused the reverse 'marks'.


I got my answer when CaptHenway posted;

"Those lines are caused by the feed fingers sliding back and forth over the lower die in the press as they kick out each struck coin and bring in a new planchet.
I have seen it on many Lincoln reverse dies, always straight up and down due to the standard alignment of the dies in the press."






About a year later I posted the piece again in a birthday thread and out of the blue i received a pm from Thenewguy with a picture of his cent.





A few pms and several years later Thenewguy’s 1944-S arrived in today's mail.



Common cents no doubt but I couldn't be happier having these old stablemates in my collection.
One in mint state and one very well travelled.




Thank you Thenewguy.

WoodenJefferson

I vaguely remember that thread, we do have some sharp people here that will usually define most any or all questions regarding Numismatics. Cool coins...rock on!

LanceNewmanOCC

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very cool to be sure ! really like both of em

hope my next comments don't end up hijacking your thread BUT:

i will go ahead and disagree with the feed fingers diagnosis and I'll say why

just about any contact/damage to the dies will result in a recession in some form or another

and this will result in a "raised" area on the planchet where the metal will fill in these contact/damaged areas

clearly the coins in question have recession which means "raised" areas on the dies or maybe some process during flan production

it is mostly likely not a planchet/flan issue since there are matching pairs in such a fashion as to not be random

i've been giving this some serious thought over the past 2+ years and i am of the opinion that the majority of clashes and/or

issues like the ones your coins have most almost certainly had this happen before the dies ever enter the machine

the logic of my mind will only allow me to accept that most clashes and probably what caused these cents to have the recessed areas

happens during the positive/negative die making process. so in the lunacy of my mind as i picture this process, if the dies that strike the

actual flans are negatives, then it must be two positives that strike each other, or maybe one negative striking one positive. we know

2 negatives strike each other when no planchet happens to be between them but not causing the accepted clashing or marks we see on these cents

and/or most clashed coins. die gouges represent this quite well. the dies are "damaged" and create a recession and thusly allowing metal to enter and

hence a raised area the coin.

now i can accept a gouge on a positive creating a raised area on a negative and then causing a recessed area on a coin, although would probably be flattened

out on the die(s) after striking many coins, possibly being completely flattened away before new die(s) are swapped out.

looking forward to see where this goes.
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TwoSides2aCoin

"Peaches & Herb" as the song goes.
"Sister, Sister" as the coin goes.

Lakesammman

Interesting - always fun to learn something new!

johnny9434

<< <i>Interesting - always fun to learn something new! >>

yes indeed, your never to old to learn something new ( i wonder how readily available these are? )