Other than the story saying he has been accused of something, he still hasn't been charged with anything correct? He could be innocent so why jump to conclusions? Talk about a WTF if he ends up being completely innocent for his name to be dragged through these types of stories.
<< <i>Other than the story saying he has been accused of something, he still hasn't been charged with anything correct? He could be innocent so why jump to conclusions? Talk about a WTF if he ends up being completely innocent for his name to be dragged through these types of stories. >>
He did get "suspended indefinitely" until the investigation is complete, it's disgusting if it's true.
<< <i>Other than the story saying he has been accused of something, he still hasn't been charged with anything correct? He could be innocent so why jump to conclusions? Talk about a WTF if he ends up being completely innocent for his name to be dragged through these types of stories. >>
Trust me I hope this is a huge mistake, and he is not involved in any of this. I have always liked him and I really hope this is not true.
If he has been personally saying sexually assaulting children then he needs to be hung. If he has been looking at pictures and videos he needs to be locked up for a long time.
Brendanb438 to your point it is unknown if true and if it is not then it is a travesty that he has been accused of this despicable act.
If it is true, he is a completely sick dude and deserves an extremely harsh punishment.
This is a crazy story and will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I am holding out judgement until more facts come out but either way what a terrible story to be involved with. I hope this is a misunderstanding because this is sick if true.
<< <i>I dont know but Im from the School of thought that for anyone even being mentioned in this let alone be accused then SOMETHING not right is going on. >>
The part that makes me ill is that these athletes are always around kids doing "good deeds" and kids look up to them. Like I said I hope this (poop) has no foundation to it and its all a huge mistake.
The sad thing is that in a local community, someone can be accused of a myriad of deviant charges (especially with regard to children) and their lives can be ruined.
Recently, a disgruntled mother claimed that a coach of a local travel team had attempted to accost her son during tryouts. He was forced to resign and ended up moving. Ended up the mother was annoyed that her son didn't make the travel squad and falsely claimed the coach had attempted to sexually assault her son in an attempt at revenge. End of story is that the coach did nothing wrong, but his life was ruined. Sadly, you can't correct the loose lips of the media or the gossip of a community. It takes a lifetime to build a reputation and only a moment to lose it...
I have no problem with throwing the book and then some at the guilty, but I really feel for those that are wrongly accused...
+2. I 'm in the school of thought that if we don't know whats going on we should assume some child is being raped. Someone needs to think of the children for goodness sakes..... Quit being sheep you goons.
Since he has already been suspended, don't you think that there is already evidence out there of wrong-doing? I think it would be different if it was just a rumor, etc.
Who knows? There was a case awhile back where someone took their photos in to Walmart to get developed and there were pictures of two little kids playing together in a tub. Maybe the kids were 3 or 4. Anyway, the parents were charged with pornography. This eventually got dropped, but the parents are having to sue Walmart now because of the expenses they incurred for this. Until we see FACTS, lets not assume guilt with Anderson. Perhaps he is guilty, but there is a fair chance that he is not. Let justice run its course.
Just the thought of being associated with this is sickening, and will tarnish his rep even if he is not guilty.
It's an awfully big mistake if he did nothing wrong... If he is guilty I hope he gets the max sentence. Mistakes like this rarely occur, I'm sure something is up. Disgusting subject.
I'm old enough to remember when people were considered innocent until proven guilty. These days just being accused of something publicly most people seem to judge first and ask questions later, if at all.
My brother went through a really nasty drawn-out divorce. When the ex wasn't getting her way, she accused him of molestation. My brother swears it wasn't true, but he didn't want his kids to have to go through the pain and suffering so he caved in and gave her whatever she wanted. No charges were filed, it never got out the public (small town too) and no investigation was done, so I'm going to have to believe my brother on this one. Messed him up for a long time.
And I won't even get into the possibilities for anyone using Windows on their computer having their PC hijacked.
Just sayin'.
Let the story play out before casting stones. If the evidence is there, then fire away.
He hasn't played in weeks. What is so explicit about the story? On another note; Oklahoma City Thunder Announcer Jim Miller Held On Bond For Lewd Conduct With Minor;According to court records Miller forced the kids to watch him perform obscene acts while he watched pornography on his computer. Miller says the kids walked in on him by accident. Two of the children say there was also sexual abuse involved.
KRMG news obtained court documents that show a protective order was filed against Miller by Becky Dawn Miller in April of 2012. Protective orders were also filed on behalf of Kylie Marie Miller and Manessah Dawn Miller as well. Becky Miller is Jim Millers ex-wife.
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People accused of wrongdoing are supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in this country, but as anyone with two eyes and half a brain can observe, that's only true in theory; the exact opposite is true in practice.
The story said nothing other than there is an investigation. Let's not jump to conclusions yet. The link provided...is that it? I was expecting some crazy story. Relax and let the justice system do their job.
Based on what I read, he wasn't suspended indefinitely but was "excused" indefinitely so I'm guessing that means he gets paid. He's not playing a lot so probably won't affect the team that much, guessing they don't want the distraction though. I have read there is at least one other person who lives at the address besides Andersen. I also read that Andersen voluntarily let them in so either he has nothing to hide or he does and isn't that bright but in the end, we'll have to see what facts are found.
<< <i>The story said nothing other than there is an investigation. Let's not jump to conclusions yet. The link provided...is that it? I was expecting some crazy story. Relax and let the justice system do their job. >>
There were several, but that provided the update at the time of the suspension.
<< <i>I dont know but Im from the School of thought that for anyone even being mentioned in this let alone be accused then SOMETHING not right is going on. >>
There's nothing wrong with discussing it, since it's in the news. The issue is that many people keep their pitchforks at the ready and are always thirsty for a bloody witch hunt.
Guilt or innocence doesn't matter, let's jump to conclusions and piss all over the constitution and the best intentions of the legal system, truth be damned, cops and federal detectives are infallible, innocent people never get intentionally framed or inadvertently and erroneously caught in a law enforcement net, and only guilty people ever get accused, so just give us blood!
<< <i>There's nothing wrong with discussing it, since it's in the news. The issue is that many people keep their pitchforks at the ready and are always thirsty for a bloody witch hunt.
Guilt or innocence doesn't matter, let's jump to conclusions and piss all over the constitution and the best intentions of the legal system, truth be damned, cops and federal detectives are infallible, innocent people never get intentionally framed or inadvertently and erroneously caught in a law enforcement net, and only guilty people ever get accused, so just give us blood! >>
This sounds like he has done nothing wrong at all. I don't blame him for not wanting to pay this chick for coming to see him.
She probably sent him her best picture ever and when she got there he thought she was a skank and said no thanks. Not his fault she misrepresented the package.
To the op-Edit works on title as well as content,just say'n. Also who said he was suspened?? I read-Chris has been excused from all team-related activities. Last I checked these are two different terms.
<< <i>He better hope it's a lie cause I doubt he could find a real job. >>
I too hope it is not true, but I don't think he is worried about finding a "real" job, as his salary this year alone is:
$4,234,000.00
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Doug You know a guy with all those tats cant possibly keep track of that much money,shoot he proably spent half on tats alone! Some people and there crazy tattoos huh
<< <i>Gotta be a freak to have that much ink. He better hope it's a lie cause I doubt he could find a real job.
If true hang his ass or have him share an 8x5 cell with "bubba" >>
Ah yes, what a delightful variation of Godwin's Law:
"If an online discussion is being held by predominantly white, middle-class males, and the discussion turns to criminal behavior, then the longer the discussion goes on the probability that someone will mention prison sex approaches '1'".
<< <i>Doug ... You know a guy with all those tats cant possibly keep track of that much money,shoot he probably spent half on tats alone! Some people and their crazy tattoos huh >>
JR ... your avatar is very strange ... where is that picture located?
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<< <i>Doug ... You know a guy with all those tats cant possibly keep track of that much money,shoot he probably spent half on tats alone! Some people and their crazy tattoos huh >>
JR ... your avatar is very strange ... where is that picture located? >>
r Thats what some would call a freaky ass back tattoo,got it in the joint by bubba's cousin Joe smith..
>I dont know but Im from the School of thought that for anyone even being mentioned in this let alone be accused then SOMETHING not right is going on.<
This type of thought process is scary considering many with the same mind set are potential members of the jury pool. False accusations are made all of the time. When it involves children a District Attorney has to err on the side of the children involved. It's called an investigation for a reason.
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<< <i>Other than the story saying he has been accused of something, he still hasn't been charged with anything correct? He could be innocent so why jump to conclusions? Talk about a WTF if he ends up being completely innocent for his name to be dragged through these types of stories. >>
He did get "suspended indefinitely" until the investigation is complete, it's disgusting if it's true.
<< <i>Other than the story saying he has been accused of something, he still hasn't been charged with anything correct? He could be innocent so why jump to conclusions? Talk about a WTF if he ends up being completely innocent for his name to be dragged through these types of stories. >>
Trust me I hope this is a huge mistake, and he is not involved in any of this. I have always liked him and I really hope this is not true.
If it is true, he is a completely sick dude and deserves an extremely harsh punishment.
This is a crazy story and will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I am holding out judgement until more facts come out but either way what a terrible story to be involved with. I hope this is a misunderstanding because this is sick if true.
<< <i>I dont know but Im from the School of thought that for anyone even being mentioned in this let alone be accused then SOMETHING not right is going on. >>
The part that makes me ill is that these athletes are always around kids doing "good deeds" and kids look up to them. Like I said I hope this (poop) has no foundation to it and its all a huge mistake.
I.e....look at john travolta. I don't know, we'll see how it plays out.
Recently, a disgruntled mother claimed that a coach of a local travel team had attempted to accost her son during tryouts. He was forced to resign and ended up moving. Ended up the mother was annoyed that her son didn't make the travel squad and falsely claimed the coach had attempted to sexually assault her son in an attempt at revenge. End of story is that the coach did nothing wrong, but his life was ruined. Sadly, you can't correct the loose lips of the media or the gossip of a community. It takes a lifetime to build a reputation and only a moment to lose it...
I have no problem with throwing the book and then some at the guilty, but I really feel for those that are wrongly accused...
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It's an awfully big mistake if he did nothing wrong... If he is guilty I hope he gets the max sentence. Mistakes like this rarely occur, I'm sure something is up. Disgusting subject.
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My brother went through a really nasty drawn-out divorce. When the ex wasn't getting her way, she accused him of molestation. My brother swears it wasn't true, but he didn't want his kids to have to go through the pain and suffering so he caved in and gave her whatever she wanted. No charges were filed, it never got out the public (small town too) and no investigation was done, so I'm going to have to believe my brother on this one. Messed him up for a long time.
And I won't even get into the possibilities for anyone using Windows on their computer having their PC hijacked.
Just sayin'.
Let the story play out before casting stones. If the evidence is there, then fire away.
KRMG news obtained court documents that show a protective order was filed against Miller by Becky Dawn Miller in April of 2012. Protective orders were also filed on behalf of Kylie Marie Miller and Manessah Dawn Miller as well. Becky Miller is Jim Millers ex-wife.
<< <i>The story said nothing other than there is an investigation. Let's not jump to conclusions yet. The link provided...is that it? I was expecting some crazy story. Relax and let the justice system do their job. >>
There were several, but that provided the update at the time of the suspension.
<< <i>I dont know but Im from the School of thought that for anyone even being mentioned in this let alone be accused then SOMETHING not right is going on. >>
Yeah, sure, ask Pete Townshend.
<< <i>I wish people had the sense to completely ignore this stuff until some actual facts are on the table. >>
I posted it because it was sports related.
Guilt or innocence doesn't matter, let's jump to conclusions and piss all over the constitution and the best intentions of the legal system, truth be damned, cops and federal detectives are infallible, innocent people never get intentionally framed or inadvertently and erroneously caught in a law enforcement net, and only guilty people ever get accused, so just give us blood!
<< <i>There's nothing wrong with discussing it, since it's in the news. The issue is that many people keep their pitchforks at the ready and are always thirsty for a bloody witch hunt.
Guilt or innocence doesn't matter, let's jump to conclusions and piss all over the constitution and the best intentions of the legal system, truth be damned, cops and federal detectives are infallible, innocent people never get intentionally framed or inadvertently and erroneously caught in a law enforcement net, and only guilty people ever get accused, so just give us blood! >>
Agreed.
This sounds like he has done nothing wrong at all. I don't blame him for not wanting to pay this chick for coming to see him.
She probably sent him her best picture ever and when she got there he thought she was a skank and said no thanks. Not his fault she misrepresented the package.
To the op-Edit works on title as well as content,just say'n.
Also who said he was suspened?? I read-Chris has been excused from all team-related activities.
Last I checked these are two different terms.
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1958 Topps FB-7-8
If true hang his ass or have him share an 8x5 cell with "bubba"
<< <i>Gotta be a freak to have that much ink.
What a dumb$ss statement.
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
<< <i>He better hope it's a lie cause I doubt he could find a real job. >>
I too hope it is not true, but I don't think he is worried about finding a "real" job, as his salary this year alone is:
$4,234,000.00
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Doug
You know a guy with all those tats cant possibly keep track of that much money,shoot
he proably spent half on tats alone! Some people and there crazy tattoos huh
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
<< <i>To the op-Edit works on title as well as content,just say'n. >>
If Chris Andersen was a big-time grading submitter, the thread title would have been changed over 24 hours ago to something much less inflammatory.
<< <i>Gotta be a freak to have that much ink. He better hope it's a lie cause I doubt he could find a real job.
If true hang his ass or have him share an 8x5 cell with "bubba" >>
Ah yes, what a delightful variation of Godwin's Law:
"If an online discussion is being held by predominantly white, middle-class males, and the discussion turns to criminal behavior, then the longer the discussion goes on the probability that someone will mention prison sex approaches '1'".
<< <i>Doug ... You know a guy with all those tats cant possibly keep track of that much money,shoot
he probably spent half on tats alone! Some people and their crazy tattoos huh
JR ... your avatar is very strange ... where is that picture located?
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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<< <i>Doug ... You know a guy with all those tats cant possibly keep track of that much money,shoot
he probably spent half on tats alone! Some people and their crazy tattoos huh
JR ... your avatar is very strange ... where is that picture located? >>
r
Thats what some would call a freaky ass back tattoo,got it in the joint by bubba's cousin Joe smith..
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
<< <i>The OP should edit the title of the thread. >>
i'm sure he will after his stomach recovers.
perhaps a little Milk of Amnesia.
This type of thought process is scary considering many with the same mind set are potential members of the jury pool. False accusations are made all of the time. When it involves children a District Attorney has to err on the side of the children involved. It's called an investigation for a reason.
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<< <i>Gotta be a freak to have that much ink.
What a dumb$ss statement. >>
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