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TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
Re: Cycle

The experts recommend not trying this at home.

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    great lil article...image
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭
    "Lesh called the police, who told him they wouldn't be able to respond right away."

    Nice.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes two wrongs DO make a right.image
  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761
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    The member formerly known as Ciccio / Posts: 1453 / Joined: Apr 2009
  • Stolen merchandise is a huge business, and something that collectors and dealers are all too aware of. Too many of us have been told it is our own fault for being careless, that somehow the thief, the criminal should be "understood" as taking advantage of carelessness or lack of security! This is outrageous. If honestly earned goods and carefully acquired merchandise is not protected by law and by the owners right of possession, then what is? There are a lot of sleazy operators out there who need to be nailed by the police. Too bad the grading services don't insert rfids in grading slabs, it wouldn't be that hard.
  • JustlookingJustlooking Posts: 2,895
    LOVE this. image
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Too bad the police didn't have time to participate. They did give the basic CYA statement that they don't recommend this. What if he had taken two friends and hauled the guy down to the station? --Jerry
  • melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019
    What if he had taken two friends and they had just beat the crap out of the thief? Then the police would have responded but not to Lesh's liking.

    Wonder what the police were doing that was more important than catching a crook?

    Ron
    Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wonder what the police were doing that was more important than catching a crook?

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We hardly know all the facts ... but perhaps, just perhaps the police were actually busy with more substantive crimes than chasing down a thief of a 14 year old bicycle. It's not like he was in Mayberry where the sheriff is just a waitin' for somethin' to do. He said the police wouldn't be able to respond right away. Maybe, just maybe, this wasn't deemed to be a police emergency by those who really know about crime in Washington, DC.

    Oh ... to keep it coin related ... this is probably not a good way to get stolen coins back ... clever, but probably not a good idea.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces


  • << <i>Wonder what the police were doing that was more important than catching a crook?

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    We don't go down to the PD often enough with complaints, something very easy to do. This establishes the nature of the crime for future reference. Do the cops do us any good? I suppose so in an abstract sense when they occasionally get something right. They have a lot of tools at their disposal, why aren't they using them to track down stolen items? In my town many cops are pulling down six figures between their salary, private functions; plus they get union benefits and a generous retirement plan.
  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wonder what the police were doing that was more important than catching a crook? >>



    Writing speeding tickets.

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Wonder what the police were doing that was more important than catching a crook? >>



    Writing speeding tickets. >>



    That's what they're doing here in CA, raising revenue. I now use my cruise control a lot set 5-10 above the speed limit (which is acceptable here). --Jerry
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look at the weekly death toll for US cities, compare it to...ohhh...maybe Afghanistan, then decide just based on this evidence which country is at war.
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This wasn't about police or their lack of "immediate" response when a petty thief is caught out. It was a feel good story about a guy who got his _ _ _ _ back. I personally get pleasure in reading the thief threatened to call the police.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Wonder what the police were doing that was more important than catching a crook? >>



    Writing speeding tickets. >>



    That's what they're doing here in CA, raising revenue. I now use my cruise control a lot set 5-10 above the speed limit (which is acceptable here). --Jerry >>



    not here in vegas...last year had a friend get a 37 in a 35...$156 fine...image
    my ex g/f...an ex of a metro herself...got a 65 in a 65 but was posted 55 due to construction...heck this whole city is a construction zone just for double fines
    imho...cops are running amuck...upping rev for their outrageous pay n benny's
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I posted some coins for sale on Craigslist. Someone tried to scam me twice; once thru PayPal and the other time he FEDEX'd a check for WAY OVER the cost of the coins. Pretty sure it was the same person since both came from gmail accounts. Since when did it start where there is so little info on routing of an email? Since the check was drawn on a Bank of America account, I wonder if BoA would be interested in pursuing it. If one of their branches would cash it would I still be on the hook?
    theknowitalltroll;
  • Ive had zero contact with any police in 5 years being resident in the US. On the one occasion i tried i'd found a purse in a parking lot , i thought the easiest thing would be take it to the cop shop so i took a drive into town mid afternoon and this was midweek.It was closed.I found that difficult to understand but closed it was.In the end i had to rummage through the purse , found a CVS receipt with the womans name,thankfully there only two identical names in the phone book near me and my first call got the daughter,the owner was her Mom and they were frantic.Im told the police were probably all busy doing school crossing guard duty.I don't think thats making the best use of the police but thats how it is i guess.
  • CyStaterCyStater Posts: 681 ✭✭✭
    Nice that people on here could take the original story and turn it into a cop-bashing thread. image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,234 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice that people on here could take the original story and turn it into a cop-bashing thread. image >>



    What did you expect when the cops were too busy to catch a thief and the victim had to do the cop's job to get his property back. I support the police but not in this case.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • On the original topic, to get your coins back that are stolen, I don't know what the statistics are, but unless the coins are esoteric rarities or varieties, or entirely valued based on their high grades, it may be hard to get your valuables back once stolen.

    I wonder about coins that I bought raw from a dealer notorious for dealing in problem and overgraded material, that were underpriced and graded well. There should be a law enforcement section on these sites specifically geared toward helping those in need of that advice.
  • CyStaterCyStater Posts: 681 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Nice that people on here could take the original story and turn it into a cop-bashing thread. image >>



    What did you expect when the cops were too busy to catch a thief and the victim had to do the cop's job to get his property back. I support the police but not in this case. >>



    You can't be serious. The police didn't tell him they weren't going to respond, they said that they couldn't respond right away. This was in DC right? I'm sure they were handling much higher priority calls than a located stolen bike. What do you expect? That they are going to drop everything and run with lights and sirens blazing to a call like this? If you think calls like this should be handled as a top priority then be prepared to double or quadruple every police force in America. Police ranks have been stretched very thin and low priority calls are going to get pushed further and further to the back of the line. You get what you pay for.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,234 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Nice that people on here could take the original story and turn it into a cop-bashing thread. image >>



    What did you expect when the cops were too busy to catch a thief and the victim had to do the cop's job to get his property back. I support the police but not in this case. >>



    You can't be serious. The police didn't tell him they weren't going to respond, they said that they couldn't respond right away. This was in DC right? I'm sure they were handling much higher priority calls than a located stolen bike. What do you expect? That they are going to drop everything and run with lights and sirens blazing to a call like this? If you think calls like this should be handled as a top priority then be prepared to double or quadruple every police force in America. Police ranks have been stretched very thin and low priority calls are going to get pushed further and further to the back of the line. You get what you pay for. >>



    If they didn't respond "right away" the bike would be sold and long gone and it should have been treated like a crime in progress. Sounds like the police were blowing off the victim. Also, the bike sounded fairly expensive and the replacement cost could be close to a thousand dollars. How hard would it be to have a patrol car that's already in the area to stop and get the bike back? Sorry but we're going to have to disagree on this one.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    << Nice that people on here could take the original story and turn it into a cop-bashing thread. >>



    What did you expect when the cops were too busy to catch a thief and the victim had to do the cop's job to get his property back. I support the police but not in this case. >>



    You can't be serious. The police didn't tell him they weren't going to respond, they said that they couldn't respond right away. This was in DC right? I'm sure they were handling much higher priority calls than a located stolen bike. What do you expect? That they are going to drop everything and run with lights and sirens blazing to a call like this? If you think calls like this should be handled as a top priority then be prepared to double or quadruple every police force in America. Police ranks have been stretched very thin and low priority calls are going to get pushed further and further to the back of the line. You get what you pay for. >>



    If they didn't respond "right away" the bike would be sold and long gone and it should have been treated like a crime in progress. Sounds like the police were blowing off the victim. Also, the bike sounded fairly expensive and the replacement cost could be close to a thousand dollars. How hard would it be to have a patrol car that's already in the area to stop and get the bike back? Sorry but we're going to have to disagree on this one.


    A very good friend is a Sheriff's detective, and has been for quite some time. We had lunch yesterday and talked a lot of "cop shop". It's amazing how much of his time is spent on what some would consider BS. Paperwork, interviewing witnesses, chasing down leads, etc. Even when he was a "street cop" he was bogged down with the BS that goes along with every arrest/case. It's all part of the process to protect everyone's rights. It's all about priority. Nail the person with a joint and you don't have time for the bicycle.

    Congrats to the guy with the nads to go after his bike.

    That's my 2 Cents

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    Dan
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice article. thanks for sharing it lmao. wtg
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice article, but ...........

    I think for $600 I wouldn't risk an encounter with a bad dude, especially one that had my cell phone number.

    Once when I was in junior high shop class I was certain another student had stolen my tape measure. I recognized it from several scratches on the cover. I confronted him about it and he assured me that it was his. After class I stole it back and I used it for the rest of the semester. Imagine my surprise when mine showed up later, exactly where I left it. That guy probably still thinks I'm a huge jerk. He moved and I never had a chance to make it right. Two wrongs might make a right, but only very rarely.

    The real problem here is the unavailable police department. Fortunately there is still a difference between the big city and the small town I live in.
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭


    << <i>It's all about priority. >>

    Yeah, I learned all about priority when my house was broken into.
  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭✭
    Great story. Most high end bikes get stripped right away and sold for parts. Most would be surprised at the prices they get. Being my second hobby (Guess the first image..) am always on guard for the crooks
  • NapNap Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DON'T DO THIS!!!

    Some years ago, my family car was stolen from the parking lot of a restaurant about 20 miles from where I live. My dad did what he had to do, went to the police and filed a report, then waited. About 2 weeks later a samaritan called him because they saw the car parked in front of their house with some shady guys using it, thought it might be stolen, opened the unlocked door, and found some personal information with my dad's phone number. My dad called the police but they gave him a song about not being able to go over right now... so he went to where the car was, recognized it as his, realized the guys who were using it might be back, and drove it home. He later got in touch with the police to tell them the vehicle had been located and the police wanted to arrest him on the spot. They put him in the back of the squad car, my mom was in tears, they threatened him that he tampered with a crime scene, that he was a fraud and pretending to steal his own vehicle. They finally let him go. It was vicious and traumatic.

    What I learned was that stolen stuff is not yours to steal back. No matter what. Sadly, it also solidified my opinion that police are fairly unhelpful in theft cases, and can be ambivalent and even cruel to victims.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,234 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>DON'T DO THIS!!!

    Some years ago, my family car was stolen from the parking lot of a restaurant about 20 miles from where I live. My dad did what he had to do, went to the police and filed a report, then waited. About 2 weeks later a samaritan called him because they saw the car parked in front of their house with some shady guys using it, thought it might be stolen, opened the unlocked door, and found some personal information with my dad's phone number. My dad called the police but they gave him a song about not being able to go over right now... so he went to where the car was, recognized it as his, realized the guys who were using it might be back, and drove it home. He later got in touch with the police to tell them the vehicle had been located and the police wanted to arrest him on the spot. They put him in the back of the squad car, my mom was in tears, they threatened him that he tampered with a crime scene, that he was a fraud and pretending to steal his own vehicle. They finally let him go. It was vicious and traumatic.

    What I learned was that stolen stuff is not yours to steal back. No matter what. Sadly, it also solidified my opinion that police are fairly unhelpful in theft cases, and can be ambivalent and even cruel to victims. >>



    He should have got a lawyer and sued the cops. Then he should called the local newspaper and TV station.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool story !!!
    Timbuk3
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭


    << <i>If you think calls like this should be handled as a top priority then be prepared to double or quadruple every police force in America. >>

    Don't be silly. There's no need to hire more people. All you need to do is call one of the guys who's sitting in his car already, doing nothing more than trying to catch people speeding with his radar gun. The only expense is the income lost from the tickets he didn't write while actually helping someone get their stolen property back.

    I would bet most of the people who are paying officers' salaries would consider responding to a situation where their stolen property has been located to be a priority. It's "protect *and* serve", isn't it? Or is there a new policy these days? Just wondering... image
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    some of you are truly clueless.
  • melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019
    The State of North Carolina has seat belt laws like every other state which are enforced. I know I have been caught twice. It['s a stupid law and and should be removed. The only person I am endangering is myself. North Carolina also has an if your wipers are running, your headlights are on law. I work night shift and when I drive home in the mornings it is semi-light to say the least. When it is raining approximately 30% of the cars on the road don't have their headlight s on. I called the local police department and complained about how dangerous this was and that you could not see the cars. The person that answered the phone asked if the headlight law was really on the books. You will not get a law enforced when "they" have to get their uniforms wet to give a ticket. Hard to impress the young girls at the donut shop if your uniform is wrinkled.

    Ron
    Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I see the humor.


    It's like a modern day "robbin' hood" story.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this would only work if the thief will let you
    take your stolen coins out for a ride

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    LCoopie = Les
  • GOWYOGOWYO Posts: 141 ✭✭
    The same way you get your house back, your dog back and your wife back... Play a country song backward! image
    Successful BST with : Wondercoin, DenverDave
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,234 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>some of you are truly clueless. >>



    Huh? Care to elaborate?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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