Is the mintmark on this 1916-S Indian $5 added or legit?
airplanenut
Posts: 22,170 ✭✭✭✭✭
Your thoughts?
JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
0
Comments
The upper curve of the 6 also appears to hang out too far over the bottom loop as compared to the Heritage photo.
Even the size of the lower loop in the 6 appears too small. After reviewing about a dozen 16-S's on the Heritage auction
archives, I couldn't find a single specimen that had this kind of mm. (mintage is 240,000). There's no 1916-P so it would suggest
to me the coin is entirely bogus.
You can still see the inpressions of the mm die around the S.
jom
I turned to David Akers' "A Handbook of 20th Century United States Gold Coins" second edition, 2008.
...on page 120, "Strike: The 1916-S is invariably well struck. The mint mark is usually bold, but even then it often lacks definition."
TD
<< <i>That is a known die-struck counterfeit.
TD >>
Agree---this is a well documented fake. There are other dates in this series that used this same counterfeit reverse die with the worm S mintmark. This series has been very heavily counterfeited and the quality of many are scary good. Don't buy them raw unless you are an expert. Jeremy---I hope you can get your money back.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>That is a known die-struck counterfeit.
TD >>
...just wonderin' J, where did you see this? or do you own it?
<< <i>That is a known die-struck counterfeit.
TD >>
Learning is earning so that one can avoid a burning. Thank you for so much you're probably not aware of.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
It couldn't be added. Added to what? They only struck $5 in San Francisco that year. There is a whole lot that doesn't look right with that coin.
shape looks off too
<< <i>Is the mintmark on this 1916-S Indian $5 added or legit?
It couldn't be added. Added to what? They only struck $5 in San Francisco that year. There is a whole lot that doesn't look right with that coin. >>
When the counterfeit reverse die was created, they used a genuine Philadelphia mint coin to cast the reverse die and, to create a better date coin, they engraved an S mintmark into their false reverse die. Fortunately, they did a lousy engraving job because this fake coin would be an otherwise fairly good copy of a real specimen. This false reverse die has been used with other dated obverse dies within this series.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire