Seeking SGC-to-PSA Crossover Strategies

scoutsout47

Hey Fellas,

It should go without saying that some -- perhaps even most -- SGC cards fail to crossover to a commensurate PSA grade, but what would you guys recommend after that first failed attempt? My attempts to crossover SGC cards is limited to 40s and 50s (the sets I'm building are a uniform PSA 3), and I've had about a 30-35% initial success rate. That said, what would you say is my best chance for success thereafter?

*Resub once more for a min. grade crossover before giving up.
*Crack and resub raw.


Any opinions would be much appreciated, as I'm sitting on several SGC 40s and 50s that won't have a home in my collection otherwise.

Scottiec2288

Crack it out...send in raw..

bigreddog

Save your money and keep them Raw the way they were meant to be?
weather their in this slab or that slab, they are what they are..... the same card.

Re-subbing a card over and over actually lowers the card grade IMHO. banging around in the USPS.

cracking out of the slabs and more unnecessary handling of the card.


John
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vladguerrero

I had pretty terrible results, a grade to grade and a half lower with PSA, and that was cracking and submitting...

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=41&threadid=851095&highlight_key=y&keyword1=sgc

Yankees001

Crack the card. I did this two 10-15 SGC slabs and sent them to PSA. 5 came back 2 grades higher, 7 one grade higher, the rest were same grade ± .5.

Good luck on your decision.

Dave

scoutsout47

Thanks, Dave. I'm thinking that it may be time to crack and resub a handful of cards. That'll make for a nice thread once they go out. Fingers crossed!

JustinsShoebox

I currently have a SGC 98 1994 SP FOIL Alex Rodriguez in for express crossing.

I'll let you know what the results are, which should be back early this week.

Justin

otwcards

Don't assume that just because a card is in the same grade holder that it will cross either way (SGC to PSA or vice versa). The best success rate is realized when you honestly evaluate the card on the merits and understand the implied differences in grading by both services. There are simple ways to ensure that your success rate is higher, but then again, that assumes that one understands the nuances between one service and another.

Cracking and resubbing creates the best opportunity for crosses and bumps, but a keen eye and an unbiased and critical analysis of the item(s) being submitted must transpire in advance of sitting and filling out the submission form.

Too often, I hear horror stories of someone cracking and subbing without examining their card(s) with a critical eye. High profile cross-overs are a virtual waste of money. PSA, despite saying that they'll give the card a fair shake, is hesitant to cross a high profile card while it is still in a competitor's holder. There are several reasons for this. One is that it would provide credibility to the competitor. The second is that there is an inherent risk in cracking a card out and finding an issue that didn't present prior to removing in from the competitor's holder (ie. surface flaws, trimming or filing, or other evidence of doctoring).

It is easy for some to make assumptions or blanket statements based upon limited factual evidence and conjecture, but the truth is, the highest success rates are rewards for doing one's due diligence.

jackstraw

<< <i>I currently have a SGC 98 1994 SP FOIL Alex Rodriguez in for express crossing.

I'll let you know what the results are, which should be back early this week.

Justin >>


I bet this has no shot at crossing to a PSA 10.

JustinsShoebox

<< <i>

<< <i>I currently have a SGC 98 1994 SP FOIL Alex Rodriguez in for express crossing.

I'll let you know what the results are, which should be back early this week.

Justin >>


I bet this has no shot at crossing to a PSA 10. >>



Thanks for your insightful, and promising feedback. I'll be quite sure to seek your counsel before embarking on another crossover.

I've crossed over quite a number of BGS 9.5 and SGC 98 cards recently and have been completely thrilled with the results. That said, I know this card is a tough cross; it's merely an attempt. If it doesn't come back crossed correctly, I won't be hurt about it. It's a gorgeous card in an SGC holder as well.

Justin

gemint

<< <i>Don't assume that just because a card is in the same grade holder that it will cross either way (SGC to PSA or vice versa). The best success rate is realized when you honestly evaluate the card on the merits and understand the implied differences in grading by both services. There are simple ways to ensure that your success rate is higher, but then again, that assumes that one understands the nuances between one service and another.

Cracking and resubbing creates the best opportunity for crosses and bumps, but a keen eye and an unbiased and critical analysis of the item(s) being submitted must transpire in advance of sitting and filling out the submission form.

Too often, I hear horror stories of someone cracking and subbing without examining their card(s) with a critical eye. High profile cross-overs are a virtual waste of money. PSA, despite saying that they'll give the card a fair shake, is hesitant to cross a high profile card while it is still in a competitor's holder. There are several reasons for this. One is that it would provide credibility to the competitor. The second is that there is an inherent risk in cracking a card out and finding an issue that didn't present prior to removing in from the competitor's holder (ie. surface flaws, trimming or filing, or other evidence of doctoring).

It is easy for some to make assumptions or blanket statements based upon limited factual evidence and conjecture, but the truth is, the highest success rates are rewards for doing one's due diligence. >>



True. I recently cracked an SGC88 1957 team card only to realize it was riddled with surface wrinkles on the back that couldn't be seen when it was in the holder. I subbed it anyway since the January special was running and it came back a 5. I'm hoping the card was soaked and not a case where the SGC graders are that blind.

jackstraw