crossing psa to sgc

raykasa

it's been said often that crossing sgc to psa holders is a waste of time and money-due to "slim and none" chances, but what about taking psa to sgc? anybody have success doing this? i'm thinking about getting some sgc inventory and thought this might be a worthwhile endevour. LMK thanks Ray

trex

I do it all the time. I've probably cracked close to 100 PSA's and sent them to SGC. Success depends on what you define success as. If consistent grading is success then yes 100% satisfied. SGC grades closer to how I grade cards, so I haven't been disappointed in any grade I've received back from SGC, except for one, and I totally missed it, my fault entirely. Keep one thing in mind though, I collect and don't sell, so it's all good for me. If you're looking to turn them, might be a different definition of success, I dunno. I'm sure someone else will chime in on that one.

ndleo

You are only going to cost yourself money in most cases. I'm sure some SGC fan will post a few auction results showing otherwise, but there will be many more showing that PSA gets more $$$ than SGC.

Scottiec2288

If your looking for selling I would definately keep in PSA.There are alot more registry guys there and most people only deal with PSA slabs.Personally I prefer SGC for my cards that I collect like Trex

Scottiec2288

Plus don't assume that they will cross!! I had a few PSA slabs to crossover and came back lower in SGC. I think if you want some SGC slabs your better off cracking out then leaving in holder,

raykasa

thanks for your responses; i may consider since many of these cards are for my collection and these are older psa slabs. regards ray

trex

<< <i>Plus don't assume that they will cross!! I had a few PSA slabs to crossover and came back lower in SGC. I think if you want some SGC slabs your better off cracking out then leaving in holder, >>



Yeah I would definitely crack them out. Even at that, I've had them come back with a lower grade. But once I got them out of the case where I could get a more definitive look at the card, the grade I gave the card is the grade in most cases it came back from SGC with. Conversely I've had them come back higher in a few cases. But to me there's a lot more consistency at SGC. I guess it comes down to whether you want a case with a number on it, or do you want what the card actually is. In my case it's the later, but again I collect and don't turn the cards.

CollectorAtWork

You need to look at the card in the holder and ask yourself what this card would grade w/o looking at the flip. If the card is strong for the grade, there's a good chance that it will cross. If it is weak for the grade, it's doubtful. The hard part is when there are ambiguous issues in the card such as staining, creases and wrinkles. SGC and PSA do seem to have slightly different standards with regards to these. Also, SGC does not have qualifiers on the flip, but will instead mark the grade for the card down instead. Finally, w/ older PSA flips, I have tend to find that the grading is more lenient, and it is tougher now. Therefore, keep all of these things in mind when doing cross overs.

As others have said, by continuing sending cards to graders, you will lose money. The grading companies will make money as you grade cards over and over again. It's obviously your money to do whatever you want, and you probably want all of your cards to be in the same holder since it looks better. However, if you're crossing over a $5 common, and paying $7 in grading fees to do it, it may not make a lot of sense.

trex

+1 Well said and true.

smtjoy

I agree with everything Collectoratwork said, solid advice. I collect both and have crossed many both ways, my Clemente and new exhibits are in PSA slabs but the rest of my collection is in SGC. I have probably crossed over 500+ from PSA slabs to SGC ones. My success is about 80% for a straight cross, 5 % get a bump and 15% do not cross or get a downgrade. A few tips, do not send any PSA cards with a MK qualifier, SGC grades these as 20/1.5 every time if there is any writing, but if you have cards with the OC you can do better, most only get a one grade markdown. Nearly every card strong for the grade will cross, you will also get a clunker or two where the original grade was bad because they missed a spider crease or something like that, so expect a big drop or two.

Good luck!

mcadams

The only group or forum I know that still prefers SGC is the net54baseball.com guys. Its mostly a pre-war collector base there and they like their T206 in SGC holders. Other than those guys, the other 98% of the collecting universe strongly prefers PSA. If you're a seller, thats all you need to know.

bigreddog

The PSA registry is very imbedded and has a strong hold on most of the "whats it worth" collectors. So PSA's stronghold will likely continue.

I crossed my 1971 Set to SGC holders and have never regretted it. I feel I get a more consistant higher quality product with SGC.

I still maintain a PSA set as well. Both are the top two TPGers and the only two I would use. I know breaking free of the PSA registry is
not possible for many, as money and "Card value" will always be more of a priority than the actual cards themselves to those collectors.

The other option is to keep them Raw.

John


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trex

<< <i>The PSA registry is very imbedded and has a strong hold on most of the "whats it worth" collectors. So PSA's stronghold will likely continue.

I crossed my 1971 Set to SGC holders and have never regretted it. I feel I get a more consistant higher quality product with SGC.

I still maintain a PSA set as well. Both are the top two TPGers and the only two I would use. I know breaking free of the PSA registry is
not possible for many, as money and "Card value" will always be more of a priority than the actual cards themselves to those collectors.

The other option is to keep them Raw.

John


All American Hobbies Online Store >>



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