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If you had 2k to spend on unopened boxes what would be a good choice? Gonna use the bill me later. Will post pics after they get ripped.
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$350 '78 Topps baseball vending (from BBCE only)
$250 '84 Donruss box
$100 '89 Upper Deck series I box
$300 '89 Bowman tiffany sealed set (not wax but it's fun to break and could score a real nice Griffey)
$100 '81 Topps baseball box
$50 '90 Leaf series I box
$200 '85 Topps football box
$250 '89 Score football box
$300 '84 USFL sealed set
$30 '89/90 Topps hockey box
$75 '90/91 OPC Premier hockey box
I'm not into recent modern, so can't suggest anything there
<< <i>Depends on what you're into, but for a good potential ROI I'd buy:
$350 '78 Topps baseball vending (from BBCE only)
$250 '84 Donruss box
$100 '89 Upper Deck series I box
$300 '89 Bowman tiffany sealed set (not wax but it's fun to break and could score a real nice Griffey)
$100 '81 Topps baseball box
$50 '90 Leaf series I box
$200 '85 Topps football box
$250 '89 Score football box
$300 '84 USFL sealed set
$30 '89/90 Topps hockey box
$75 '90/91 OPC Premier hockey box
I'm not into recent modern, so can't suggest anything there >>
I like a lot of your picks. I may have added 1983 Topps baseball cello $140 and a 1991 Stadium football $75 but I can't decide what to remove!
I'm not into recent modern, so can't suggest anything there >>
Out of the list, I like the '84 Donruss, they're pretty clean.
Not my business, but don't do it if you have to finance it through Bill Me Later.
CASH
<< <i>Im curious what was the basis of a positive ROI of the 1989 UD Baseball and 90/91 OPC Premier hockey was based? A short-term ROI such as rip, grade, sell all within a short timeframe and possibly score a profit over your total investment? Or a long-term ROI such as hoping for gradual price appreciation? >>
Truthfully, there is very little chance for decent ROI on any wax, it is more of a gamble. But I think these have a decent shot, better than most, and better than spending all 2K on one rare box only to find it is all miscut (ie 75 T mini)
As for UD, I have typically seen about 2 Griffeys per series I box, I saw one box w 5 Griffeys cuz the collation in UD was terrible in 89, two PSA 9s gets your money back and one PSA 10 and you did real well. Of course could see zero Griffeys but that's a risk you take w any wax. Some interesting errors are also possible in the set, and Randy Johnson's best RC.
Premier hockey is actually a good rip if you can find a box for 75 or less. Cards come out of those packs pristine, there will be lots of tens. I actually busted one of these, got a Jagr, Modano, Stevens, Sundin, Roenick all received 10s and each sold for about $30. Also got 10 on Gretzky, and a few other 9s, but more 10s than 9s. I think I tripled my money after grading fees. And it was a cheap, fun rip. Great collation in these boxes.
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<< <i>Im curious what was the basis of a positive ROI of the 1989 UD Baseball and 90/91 OPC Premier hockey was based? A short-term ROI such as rip, grade, sell all within a short timeframe and possibly score a profit over your total investment? Or a long-term ROI such as hoping for gradual price appreciation? >>
Truthfully, there is very little chance for decent ROI on any wax, it is more of a gamble. But I think these have a decent shot, better than most, and better than spending all 2K on one rare box only to find it is all miscut (ie 75 T mini)
As for UD, I have typically seen about 2 Griffeys per series I box, I saw one box w 5 Griffeys cuz the collation in UD was terrible in 89, two PSA 9s gets your money back and one PSA 10 and you did real well. Of course could see zero Griffeys but that's a risk you take w any wax. Some interesting errors are also possible in the set, and Randy Johnson's best RC.
Premier hockey is actually a good rip if you can find a box for 75 or less. Cards come out of those packs pristine, there will be lots of tens. I actually busted one of these, got a Jagr, Modano, Stevens, Sundin, Roenick all received 10s and each sold for about $30. Also got 10 on Gretzky, and a few other 9s, but more 10s than 9s. I think I tripled my money after grading fees. And it was a cheap, fun rip. Great collation in these boxes. >>
Thanks for taking the time to answer. I see your point on diversifying, taking a gamble and with a little luck, you can make out.
From what you originally mentioned, I think the 1984 USFL and the '89 Bowman Tiffany have a shot at Long-Term appreciation at least from a population and production standpoint, even if just buying them and sock them away as a sealed set. If you open the sets and can pull even a few 9's for the key cards from those sets, I think it's a good deal in the long run. A 10 would be golden. Meanwhile, as much as I love the 1990 OPC Premier set, it's just too common to ever move up much long-term. It used to be THE set in the industry in the very early 90's as you must know. But 1000+ pop in PSA 10 for each key card and probably 1,000 more of each to come in unopened wax and factory sets, just leaves no chance of hitting a home-run as far as appreciation goes. But to counterpoint my own argument, at least hockey fans of all ages will always be able to afford it. Same argument goes for 1989 UD #1. I always wished Topps and Bowman had all the rookies in their 1990 Hockey Tiffany Sets. I believe there were only approx. 5,000 of each set produced. No Jagr, No Brodeur. Oh what could have been! And speaking of Brodeur and changing to babble/ramble, I think the 1990 7th Inning Sketch Martin Brodeur #222 is a very cool card that could be a long-term winner with great photos on front and back and although not super rare, it is a ton rarer than the Score issue (3500 english plus 1200 canadian Score graded!). To date, the 7th inning Sketch has only 110 graded with 63 in 9 and 13 in PSA 10. It isn't cheap anymore graded either. In 9 about $30+ and can go for $100+ in PSA 10. So maybe I can tie it into the original poster's conversation as the 1990 7th Inning Sketch QMJHL boxes can still be had for about $10. You find 1 or 2 Brodeur's and you might do really well short and long term. The other sleeper in that issue may be the Scott Niedermayer. He's in the 1990 7th inning sketch WHL boxes. A true pre-rookie card issued a full year b4 his national issues. Cheers.
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<< <i>Im curious what was the basis of a positive ROI of the 1989 UD Baseball and 90/91 OPC Premier hockey was based? A short-term ROI such as rip, grade, sell all within a short timeframe and possibly score a profit over your total investment? Or a long-term ROI such as hoping for gradual price appreciation? >>
Truthfully, there is very little chance for decent ROI on any wax, it is more of a gamble. But I think these have a decent shot, better than most, and better than spending all 2K on one rare box only to find it is all miscut (ie 75 T mini)
As for UD, I have typically seen about 2 Griffeys per series I box, I saw one box w 5 Griffeys cuz the collation in UD was terrible in 89, two PSA 9s gets your money back and one PSA 10 and you did real well. Of course could see zero Griffeys but that's a risk you take w any wax. Some interesting errors are also possible in the set, and Randy Johnson's best RC.
Premier hockey is actually a good rip if you can find a box for 75 or less. Cards come out of those packs pristine, there will be lots of tens. I actually busted one of these, got a Jagr, Modano, Stevens, Sundin, Roenick all received 10s and each sold for about $30. Also got 10 on Gretzky, and a few other 9s, but more 10s than 9s. I think I tripled my money after grading fees. And it was a cheap, fun rip. Great collation in these boxes. >>
Thanks for taking the time to answer. I see your point on diversifying, taking a gamble and with a little luck, you can make out.
From what you originally mentioned, I think the 1984 USFL and the '89 Bowman Tiffany have a shot at Long-Term appreciation at least from a population and production standpoint, even if just buying them and sock them away as a sealed set. If you open the sets and can pull even a few 9's for the key cards from those sets, I think it's a good deal in the long run. A 10 would be golden. Meanwhile, as much as I love the 1990 OPC Premier set, it's just too common to ever move up much long-term. It used to be THE set in the industry in the very early 90's as you must know. But 1000+ pop in PSA 10 for each key card and probably 1,000 more of each to come in unopened wax and factory sets, just leaves no chance of hitting a home-run as far as appreciation goes. But to counterpoint my own argument, at least hockey fans of all ages will always be able to afford it. Same argument goes for 1989 UD #1. I always wished Topps and Bowman had all the rookies in their 1990 Hockey Tiffany Sets. I believe there were only approx. 5,000 of each set produced. No Jagr, No Brodeur. Oh what could have been! And speaking of Brodeur and changing to babble/ramble, I think the 1990 7th Inning Sketch Martin Brodeur #222 is a very cool card that could be a long-term winner with great photos on front and back and although not super rare, it is a ton rarer than the Score issue (3500 english plus 1200 canadian Score graded!). To date, the 7th inning Sketch has only 110 graded with 63 in 9 and 13 in PSA 10. It isn't cheap anymore graded either. In 9 about $30+ and can go for $100+ in PSA 10. So maybe I can tie it into the original poster's conversation as the 1990 7th Inning Sketch QMJHL boxes can still be had for about $10. You find 1 or 2 Brodeur's and you might do really well short and long term. The other sleeper in that issue may be the Scott Niedermayer. He's in the 1990 7th inning sketch WHL boxes. A true pre-rookie card issued a full year b4 his national issues. Cheers. >>
Speaking of 7th inning sketch, I'm pretty sure I bought a Lindros minor league card made by them (I think it had a yellow border and maybe he was with Laval, I can't recall). I paid $100 for it, which was a ton in 1990, but the guy said it was way undervalued and could only go up. Well, it obviously didn't and I ended up almost giving it away in trade value a couple years later.
I bought TWO, one I still have since nobody wants it at any price
<< <i>1972 Topps Football wax box.
+1!!
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
The older, the better, when it comes to potential ROI. i.e. '75 mini's -- at least you have an additional
shot of scoring on low pop's. All said and done, it's a losing proposition unless you have a very keen eye,
and you get a little luck. I learned the hard way that it is not profitable and many have said the same.
Didn't you sell a bike or something to pay rent a while back ? Don't go into debt with BillMeLater to gamble on cards.
To be honest, no direction, but...
1966-69 Topps EX+
1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
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<< <i>Gonna use the bill me later. >>
WOW...don't do it. Paying interest...bad time! Invest...don't game! Buy T206 or T206 Ty Cobb PSA 4 or 5, for example. >>
+1,000,000
Pretty sad that someone is going to take on debt to buy cardboard. Be responsible.
Card collecting is addicting, but live within your means.
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<< <i>Gonna use the bill me later. >>
WOW...don't do it. Paying interest...bad time! >>
Thanks again.
<< <i>1972 Topps Football wax box. Or 2 1980-81 Bk wax boxes. >>
Obviously Handyman has no clue what a box of of 1972 Topps goes for. I own four boxes and depending on the series $3500 is the lowest you are going to get that. However I would be a buyer at $2000 all day long for any series and I will buy as many as you can get.
<< <i>Pretty sad that someone is going to take on debt to buy cardboard. Be responsible.
Card collecting is addicting, but live within your means. >>
Agreed!
Think it over long and hard. Credit is NEVER a good idea when purchasing non-necessities. If you can't pay cash, you shouldn't be making the purchase.
People living outside of their means, by using too much credit, is what has caused this recession and lack of growth mess in the U.S.
But Ill be a seller all day long if anyone wants to pay 3500 for a series 1-2 1972 FB box anyday.
-Late 70's basketball in there somewhere. 132 card sets. I think there's 10 cards a pack in 77/78 and 12 in 78/79 and 79/80. A lot of good players in these sets....kareem, walton, maravich, dr j, parish, etc. Very economical.
-1983 and 85 topps vending?
-What about 1981 topps rack or wax? you're probably bound to get some low pop 9's. The fernando 9 rc is like $90. I wouldn't be surprised if 78-81/83 cards continue to go up, as the generation that grew up with those players earn more money.
Oh BB or FB..
But if you got by 1954s pricing of his items you might only get 1-2 cases of 1991 Upperdeck.
Might look into checking out BBcexchanges web site to get a good deal.
<< <i>If you have collateral I'll loan you the $2000 with no interest for the same time period. >>
Your not leaning against a pole with a handle bar mustache while flipping a coin are you?