1852-O $1 Gold What would you call this?
Dabigkahuna
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Dabigkahuna
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-Paul
<< <i>It is commonly referred to as Longacre Doubling.
-Paul >>
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<< <i>Longacre doubling? I've never heard that term before; can someone enlighten me? >>
He was the Chief Engraver at the mint. This type of doubling is quite common on coins from this era.
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<< <i>Looks very odd, frankly. With doubling on both sides and occasionally on both top and bottom, I'm suspicious that it's a counterfeit. >>
It's quite authentic.
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<< <i>
<< <i>It is commonly referred to as Longacre Doubling.
-Paul >>
Longacre Doubling!! That was it,DOH!
Thank you.
I see none on the obverse.
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<< <i>The shadow or doubling is shallower than the design elements and will sometimes disappear after the die has been polished. >>
FIFY
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<< <i>The shadow or doubling is shallower than the design elements and will sometimes disappear after the die has been polished. >>
FIFY
Huh?
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<< <i>Longacre doubling? I've never heard that term before; can someone enlighten me? >>
Think of the die. It is incuse where the design on the coin is struck.
Now imagine an incuse letter T.
When the die is new the incuse walls of the letter T are crisp where they meet the field of the die. Imagine a 90 degree angle.
After usage the area around that crisp 90 degree angle begins to wear down and round off if you will. This is what causes the
Longacre effect commonly seen on his designs. The raised design begins to flatten out into the field on the finished coin
due to this wear on the die.
<< <i>I disagree with your explanation. >>
Hey Ambro,
I am trying to describe doubling showing the Longacre doubling effect.
This doubling effect can be seen for example on Jeff nickels. I understand
that there are questions as to whether the die punches had lips or edges around
the elements leading to the Longace doubling. There are even thoughts that the punches
were double punched leading to this effect etc. I am trying to explain doubling showing the
Longacre effect which displays as flattening out around the design elements. Machine doubling
will usually show in one direction on one side of the design only while the Longacre doubling effect
is usually seen on all sides of the design element.
I understand a book can be written on this topic Ambro.
<< <i>I disagree with your explanation. >>
I also disagree. Longacre doubling occurs during the hubbing process.
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