I had an experience a few years ago when I went to the neighborhood grocery store and tried to purchase some items with a $100.00 bill from the '60's. Cashier was'nt familiar with the note. I had to pay in smaller bills !!!
My local banker had a similar experience with a customer. Store called the cops and they would have arrested her, but she had a slip from the bank that she just picked up the cash. The teller is a friend who wanted the bill for himself, but forgot it was at the end of a stack that he gave the customer.
I once tried to spend a $10, but the woman looked at it, held it up to the light, marked it with her pen, and said, "this is counterfeit!"
I said, "let me see that" and saw that it was a genuine series 1950 $10, with none of the modern counterfeit deterrents, I said, "I'll take it back and pay with different money" thinking, "cool, an old bill"
she said, "no, I have to call the police" , obviously thinking, "this guy got caught trying to pass a fake and now he's trying to get out of it!"
I said, "that's ridiculous! this is absolutely genuine, just old, trust me on this, I'm a Numismatist!"
she looked skeptical, but allowed the exchange and we went on our way.
I also take the old money, even without collector's value, from the bank tellers because they say that people think they are fake. I put them into deposits at my "dump banks."
picked up a 1983 series $100 the other day. Great to see the old money, and I have to say that I'm used to the new money, but the old money has panache.
<< <i>I once tried to spend a $10, but the woman looked at it, held it up to the light, marked it with her pen, and said, "this is counterfeit!"
I said, "let me see that" and saw that it was a genuine series 1950 $10, with none of the modern counterfeit deterrents, I said, "I'll take it back and pay with different money" thinking, "cool, an old bill"
she said, "no, I have to call the police" , obviously thinking, "this guy got caught trying to pass a fake and now he's trying to get out of it!"
I said, "that's ridiculous! this is absolutely genuine, just old, trust me on this, I'm a Numismatist!"
she looked skeptical, but allowed the exchange and we went on our way. >>
That happened to me in Glasgow , i must have been passed a dud ten pound note in the city , i didnt have the best of days and was in a bit of a mood on the way home that evening , stopped at a liquer store and that being the only note of substance i had on me tendered it to be told its fake and the cops got called. I had to wait for the cops and make a statement saying i didnt make it myself and they let me go , but i didnt get my ten quid back nor my wine , id been in a mood prior , that just capped it.
Was that a Scotland 10 pound note or Bank of England? All of my reference books tell me a Scotiland Bank will make any innocent holder of a Scotland counterfeit note well again. It doesn't even have to be the bank of issue.
I couldnt swear to it as i wasnt paying attention until i was told to wait for the cops , but i believe it was English , almost all counterfeit notes there are Bank of England.
Shelbyville, eh? Those blankety-blanks are always giving the good citizens of Springfield a hard time!!!!!
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The deceased (lung cancer) owner of the coin shop that was located where I am now was a chain smoker (only outside though during business hours). His favorite prank was to take an uncut sheet of FRN's (ones or twos, whatever he fancied at the moment) to the local grocery superstore (Wegmans), where there would always be a lot of shoppers around. He would walk up to the checkout when cigarettes could still be bought from the cashier, pull the sheet out of a tube, pull out a pair of scissors and order a pack of smokes. If it weren't for the fact that he was a well known figure in town, and a philanthropist as well, he may have had a tough time pulling that stunt. Of course, he never did follow through with snipping notes from the sheet.
Shelbyville, eh? Those blankety-blanks are always giving the good citizens of Springfield a hard time!!!!! >>
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I was once at a McDonalds and the manager was really laying into a cashier for taking a counterfeit bill. I could tell from my side of the counter it was just an old note. I asked the manager if I could see it, stating that I collect old paper money and could verify if it was genuine. The note was a Series 1934 note, and had several marks on it from a counterfeit pen. I ensured the manager it was genuine, that older bills would show up as counterfeit from the pen, and offered to exchange the note for a different bill if he liked. He seemed liked he believed me, and said it would not be necessary. I don't know if at this point he was just embarassed that a customer was now part of his "discipline" and was now doing damage control. But nothing else was said while I was there.
Jim Hodgson
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Back when I was working for ANACS I got ahold of some low-grade large size Federal Reserve notes for like a buck over face each and went out and spent them. On the way home one night I went into the Long John Silver up on Fillmore and dropped one of the $10's on the young cashier. She said "What's that" and on a sudden whim I said "That's money. I'm a time traveler, and that's the closest I have to this decade. It's still good." She said "Time traveler?" and I said "Yes. I'm not supposed to tell you, but it's OK because nobody will ever believe you!"
I went home and ate and forgot about it. The next day at headquarters, the front desk calls back to say that there is somebody there with a question. It was Rick Montgomery's turn to take the visitor, so he goes up and a couple minutes later comes back and hands me the same note and asks me "Is this worth anything?" I told him to tell the person it was only worth $12 because of the condition.
TD
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I can't believe that this was an arrestable incident. If someone gave someone a bad note, and they were not members of this forum. Then really they would arrest my Mom for not knowing? I think intent would have a LOT to do with it. I can get that most folks don't know with the older bills, but arrest???? I think I would have demanded the secret service or something....????
Several years back a story appeared in Coin World, and I think was discussed here on the Forum, that a man was almost arrested for spending a $2 bill at a Burger King at Mall of America. They thought he was passing counterfeit money. Even the store manager didn't know what it was and called mall security. The secuity guard recognized it as a $2 bill and told the store manager it was good money. Sad.
Ron
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Last time I was driving through BC Canada I tried paying for a Subway sandwich with a early 2000s $5 CAN note. They refused it and told me it was counterfeit. It was clearly not--just slightly different from the brand new ones. Ridiculous. I spent it a few hours later.
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That reminds me of a time a while ago I went into a pharmacy for something and the cashier said she thinks she got a counterfeit quarter because it was not a washington and did not have a date on it. (It was a standing liberty quarter with the date worn off). She could not believe that it was real so I give her bullion value for it and she was happy. I would not be surprised if someone was arrested for trying to spend a silver quarter because the coin-star machine rejected it-so it must be counterfeit. And, o, by the way, I got my first war nickel in years today from a voucher ticket cashier at a casino-a 1944-P. I haven't found a silver coin in about 8 years in my change.
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<< <i>Gasper was told by Horner to take the bill to a bank and have it exchanged for a newer one. >>
Ya think so? He wouldnt want to go to jail again. Better get a new bill.
Steve
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<< <i>Gasper was told by Horner to take the bill to a bank and have it exchanged for a newer one. >>
Ya think so? He wouldnt want to go to jail again. Better get a new bill. >>
Probably should slap it up on ebay , too bad they put the big marker on it.
<< <i>Does the guy have a case against quick mart?
Steve >>
My thought, too. I would at least try to get my old $50 back along with a new crisp one
neighborhood grocery store and tried to purchase some
items with a $100.00 bill from the '60's. Cashier was'nt
familiar with the note. I had to pay in smaller bills !!!
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I said, "let me see that" and saw that it was a genuine series 1950 $10, with none of the modern counterfeit deterrents, I said, "I'll take it back and pay with different money" thinking, "cool, an old bill"
she said, "no, I have to call the police" , obviously thinking, "this guy got caught trying to pass a fake and now he's trying to get out of it!"
I said, "that's ridiculous! this is absolutely genuine, just old, trust me on this, I'm a Numismatist!"
she looked skeptical, but allowed the exchange and we went on our way.
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picked up a 1983 series $100 the other day. Great to see the old money, and I have to say that I'm used to the new money, but the old money has panache.
<< <i>I once tried to spend a $10, but the woman looked at it, held it up to the light, marked it with her pen, and said, "this is counterfeit!"
I said, "let me see that" and saw that it was a genuine series 1950 $10, with none of the modern counterfeit deterrents, I said, "I'll take it back and pay with different money" thinking, "cool, an old bill"
she said, "no, I have to call the police" , obviously thinking, "this guy got caught trying to pass a fake and now he's trying to get out of it!"
I said, "that's ridiculous! this is absolutely genuine, just old, trust me on this, I'm a Numismatist!"
she looked skeptical, but allowed the exchange and we went on our way. >>
That happened to me in Glasgow , i must have been passed a dud ten pound note in the city , i didnt have the best of days and was in a bit of a mood on the way home that evening , stopped at a liquer store and that being the only note of substance i had on me tendered it to be told its fake and the cops got called. I had to wait for the cops and make a statement saying i didnt make it myself and they let me go , but i didnt get my ten quid back nor my wine , id been in a mood prior , that just capped it.
Eric
<< <i>I thought this is funny, but sad.
TomMan arrested for passing genuine $50 bill >>
Shelbyville, eh? Those blankety-blanks are always giving the good citizens of Springfield a hard time!!!!!
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<< <i>I thought this is funny, but sad.
TomMan arrested for passing genuine $50 bill >>
Shelbyville, eh? Those blankety-blanks are always giving the good citizens of Springfield a hard time!!!!! >>
Another Simpsons fan.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Collector of US Small Size currency, Atlanta FRNs, and Georgia nationals since 1977. Researcher of small size US type - seeking serial number data for all FRN star notes, Series 1928 to 1934-D. Life member SPMC.
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I went home and ate and forgot about it. The next day at headquarters, the front desk calls back to say that there is somebody there with a question. It was Rick Montgomery's turn to take the visitor, so he goes up and a couple minutes later comes back and hands me the same note and asks me "Is this worth anything?" I told him to tell the person it was only worth $12 because of the condition.
TD
I think intent would have a LOT to do with it. I can get that most folks don't know with the older bills, but arrest???? I think I would have demanded the secret service or something....????
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Ron
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I would not be surprised if someone was arrested for trying to spend a silver quarter because the coin-star machine rejected it-so it must be counterfeit.
And, o, by the way, I got my first war nickel in years today from a voucher ticket cashier at a casino-a 1944-P. I haven't found a silver coin in about 8 years in my change.