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erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
Been considering a short set(1941-1945) in MS67FB(except the 45P of course) and just looked over pricing guides. Can anyone share why the 44P is so high at 67FB? Same reasons as the 45P??

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    KozmanKozman Posts: 275 ✭✭
    The 44 in 67FB's has a population of 79 with only one higher. Probably the reason why it is so pricey. I still need one for my collection.
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Full bands are the MOST overrated thing in numismatics. That being said, if you must have FB's and grade match go for 66FB. You can find 66's that are better looking than 67's if you take your time and be very picky. Then the 42-S and 44-P won't sting so bad.

    JMHO
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What Kozman said...

    In regards to Dimeman, he is misguided and does not truly appreciate the FULL design of the coin as it was intended. image
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    COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    Yes, if you want Full Bands in those grades, the price is "high". The good news is, imo, the PCGS
    price guide is way too high for late date Mer. Dimes, and I have seen many dealers lowering prices
    to sell coins.
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Full bands are the MOST overrated thing in numismatics. That being said, if you must have FB's and grade match go for 66FB. You can find 66's that are better looking than 67's if you take your time and be very picky. Then the 42-S and 44-P won't sting so bad.

    JMHO >>



    sounds like some nice insight to me crowd i'm in here...image
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    jomjom Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Full bands are the MOST overrated thing in numismatics. That being said, if you must have FB's and grade match go for 66FB. You can find 66's that are better looking than 67's if you take your time and be very picky. Then the 42-S and 44-P won't sting so bad.

    JMHO >>



    I could NOT agree with this more. When I see FB I think "hype".

    To the OP: forget about matching grades on slabs. Cherry pick the nicest coins for the price paid...forget the damn grades. Also pick out the best strikes for the price paid as well.

    jom
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>Full bands are the MOST overrated thing in numismatics.

    JMHO >>



    That's not true, FBL on Franklins is
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Full bands are the MOST overrated thing in numismatics.

    JMHO >>



    That's not true, FBL on Franklins is >>



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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,293 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Full bands are the MOST overrated thing in numismatics.

    JMHO >>



    That's not true, FBL on Franklins is >>



    FB / FBL / FS (Full Steps) / FH (Full Head)

    Just about any designation qualifies as they are generally meant to mean a great/full strike, but most of us have seen examples that weren't as overall nice as examples that did not have that designation.

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Poor Keyman64 is the misguided one.image

    I do appreciate the design, but the bands are less important to me than the hair curls on the obverse.

    Plus you can always find almost FB and get the coin for non FB price.

    Those bands on some dates cost thousands and are not worth it to me.

    I've always said and still believe that the only coins that look better with the strike designator are the FH standing quarters. The full head actually looks much better than the flat head.

    Sorry Greg.
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    MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219


    << <i>

    << <i>Full bands are the MOST overrated thing in numismatics.

    JMHO >>



    That's not true, FBL on Franklins is >>



    I'd vote for FS on Jefferson nickels
    In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish they would get rid of the Full Steps, Full Head, Full Bands etc.....................and go with FULL STRIKE for all coins. For instance, a Full Head without a Full Shield makes no sense to me. I am one that appreciates the FULL DESIGN of a coin, not just most of it. Quality(of strike) over Quantity Any Day!
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    That's all we need a new "full strike".......everybody send in all your coins for regrading. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ DING DING DING!!!!!!
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,455 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    That's all we need a new "full strike".......everybody send in all your coins for regrading. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ DING DING DING!!!!!! >>

    image
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    Strike is supposed to be factored into the grade anyway. I agree most of these designations are way overhyped and dont buy labels buy coins. Whenever someone says they want to do this or that set in a specific grade like 66 or 67 I cringe. As one oft he other posters said buy the coins not the labels. If you want to collect plastic match all the grades perfectly. Otherwise look at the coins.
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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would agree with the side comments on this post, but you have to have a goal when starting something otherwise you just end up going all over the place. Coins of that size make MS67 very reachable. Dropping to MS66FB isnt a bad idea and would sure leave money on the table for the rest of the series, if that is something that I wanted to tackle again. However, for many of the dates/mm of the short set the dollar difference from one grade to the other isnt that high.

    About the designation, well its a whole issue all by itself and one that Im sure whole threads are about. I often flip flop on the merits of having it or not. I played the game previously with Roosevelts and have a down right impressive set, but it was expensive. Got 3/4 of the way before changing my mind to go with the designation. I told myself I wouldnt start another set that even had one attached to it. However, this is such an attractive design that I wanted to have some in my collection-hence the short set.

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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    1944 is tough in full band, just not as tough as the 1945, so pricing seems high on this year, but the quality of the strike is lower than other common years.

    As far as no band v. full bands. Get what you like and let Jon and Greg do the bickering.

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We don't bicker.....we just agree to disagree!image

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