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British 13 coin set 1887 in a case

YQQYQQ Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Just wondering what you guys think about it and what you think it is worth??
any comments are much appreciated.
I have the opportunity to purchase it but have NO idea.
I can post the individual coins if needed.
thanks

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    ZoharZohar Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    May I simply say that it is EXTREMELY cool?
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    mnemtsas2mnemtsas2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭


    << <i>May I simply say that it is EXTREMELY cool? >>



    I'll second that image
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,539 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Definitely a cool set. No idea how to price, sorry. Were those boxes aftermarket?

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    SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks like aftermarket to me (hence the initial owner's name on the cover), but cool nevertheless. I remember a time (1998-2000), when Spink had almost permanently at least one 1887 and one 1893 proof set, boxed, in stock, each priced at £5000 but these days are long gone.

    The condition of the gold coins and in particular the £5 and £2 will be a determining factor in pricing this set. These coins are often hairlined and grade rather low for proofs, which is why pristine examples of individual coins sell for so high (Mac's 1893 crown comes to mind). IMO, you should also check Heritage's previous results for such complete ungraded sets.
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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These may be a currency set, and not proof. Value? Yikes, well it is dependent on condition of the bigger bits as stated which IMO have been a bit overpriced of late. I think that the math may still work out to the 5k pound range but take a look at www.HA.com and their auction records...
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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you fellows for your very interesting comments.
    they are much appreciated.

    I was told that the box was made by someone appointed to the Queen and that these were presented to officers...
    but people tell a lot of stories.
    will check out what heritage has to say??? or, would a British auction house be also a good start?

    Would it help if I post all 13 coins, obv / rev next to each other?

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, we always love good pictures. I think Heritage if buying here (but these will be certified). I do not remember if DNW has an archive, but think they do so that could be a Brit source. Although a nice touch I do not believe that the case will give much "added value".
    Good luck on this....
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,539 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MCSearch.INFO is a great resource. Check it out. I searched for "1887 set" and saw a few examples of 11-12 piece sets being sold by Hess-Divo and St. James.

    For example:
    set 1
    set 2
    set 3

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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    will post all Images later or tomorrow..
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    JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036 ✭


    << <i>Thank you fellows for your very interesting comments.
    they are much appreciated.

    I was told that the box was made by someone appointed to the Queen and that these were presented to officers...
    but people tell a lot of stories.
    will check out what heritage has to say??? or, would a British auction house be also a good start?

    Would it help if I post all 13 coins, obv / rev next to each other? >>



    If i were a potential buyer id be researching Harry Chicken , no reason to think it's not what you were told and i suspect the case will / does add to the value without question,more so if researched.
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    WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
    I feel sorry for anybody having to go through life as a Harry Chicken.
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    JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036 ✭
    His sister was called "Hen"rietta
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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had a friend in Europe do some research for me. He has a set like it, same year. Plus he has other years.
    His prognosis: Unless all coins are proof and still in serious proof state, I should not buy it. According to him there is not a big premium over bullion if the coins are NOT top proof.
    he says the case is of little consequence unless it can be proven that Mr. Chicken was an important military person.
    I am inclined NOT to make an offer, as i do not wish to be insulting with a low ball offer.
    I suggested to have Heritage look at it.
    The coins are not in the best of condition.
    please see for yourself.
    I hope nobody minds that many Images here.

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, those are not really great examples. I would leave it alone - and I still do not think that the name or case add substantially - unless Harry Chicken proves to be someone famous...
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    MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭
    YQQ, those coins are all pretty much impaired, and I'm not sure they are all proofs. Personally, I would stay very far AWAY!

    If you're in extreme need of a superb 1887 proof set, it looks like Goldbergs is offering a truly gem set this coming May at their Pre-Long Beach auction.


    Start clicking on Lot 3922 for gold.


    Lot #4848 will lead you into the silver


    Have fun looking, and best of luck should you bid!
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    MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭
    OMG!!!!


    I............MUST...........QUIT...........LOOKING.................NOW!!!!!!!!!


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    MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭
    One last thought on those images you posted................several actually look like cast counterfeits.....at the very least someone has done a filing number on those rims; esp. the gold.
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    wybritwybrit Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭
    I have to agree with the prior posters - stay away.
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    Nunfa0Nunfa0 Posts: 162


    << <i>One last thought on those images you posted................several actually look like cast counterfeits.....at the very least someone has done a filing number on those rims; esp. the gold. >>



    I agree, those gold rims look very suspicious image
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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thank guys,
    have already decided yesterday not to do it.
    Sure looks like GB has some super stuff.
    Personally I am not into this stuff at all.
    originally I thought it was an opportunity to make a fast buck with it.
    I am only in to Canadian 1858-1967 the nicer the better.
    although I am looking also out for a German friend for proof colonial coins and notes (or, as a minimum, extreme high and or rare colonial coins)
    He is seriously looking for the German New Guinea gold pieces in proof.

    thank you all for your input.
    was fun, and you saved me a lot of $$$
    H
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