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A MS70 1982 Washington half was finally graded!

kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
Was it submitted by anyone on this board? It's a Pop 1 coin. Congrats to whoever did that-- quite a payday!
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Washington Quarter or Kennedy Half? Confused...
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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Washington Quarter or Kennedy Half? Confused... >>



    It was a Washington commemorative half. A bit of a holy grail, as there hasn't been an MS70 until now.

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's going to get interesting at the top I bet there is a tie now. How much will it go for???????
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  • I wonder if it will stay in a private collection or whether it will be auctioned off. I would love to see the price realized.
  • johnravjohnrav Posts: 230 ✭✭
    I have a dozen of those in the OGP, in the family from the mint. Guess I need to dig them out. not that any will be ms70. (since I don't play the lotto) who knew...
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭


    << <i>Anyone on this board? It's a Pop 1 coin. Congrats to whoever did that-- quite a payday! >>



    I wonder if it was one I used to own raw?
    I sold several off at 50$ silver and one was really 100% flawless with prefect mirrors ? image
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! I tried for years only to be disappointed! Congratulations to the victor!
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  • The "price" can only stay the same or go down from here?

    Eric
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    could have been a mechanical error?


  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1982 unc George Washington half comes beat up like the 1971-S silver unc Ike 1$. MS70 is pretty amazing. That coin will bring Moon money for sure.
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The 1982 unc George Washington half comes beat up like the 1971-S silver unc Ike 1$. MS70 is pretty amazing. That coin will bring Moon money for sure. >>



    The only reference point I have would be the ATS 2011 MS70 Army half dollar that went for $1800 last week. The Washington half could be a 10K coin for all we know! I don't think PCGS is going to start cranking out dozens of these.

    That just leaves the 2011 Army half in Unc as the only modern commemorative half that hasn't gotten a 70 yet. Still, the Washington Half in MS70 is likely a stunner whereas the Army half is unattractive no matter what grade it's in. image
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  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭


    << <i>The 1982 unc George Washington half comes beat up like the 1971-S silver unc Ike 1$. MS70 is pretty amazing. That coin will bring Moon money for sure. >>



    I Agree , What a find ! ! ! !
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>could have been a mechanical error? >>



    This is very likely the case if not I bet Wondercoin will sure be in the hunt.

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any updates on this? I haven't seen it for sale anywhere yet...
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • We go through thousands of these, on our website.
    I don't think I've seen one, that i would consider to send in... they are all pretty much middle of the road grades.
    Way cool score for whoever made that coin..... congrats!
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could not find in it any sets.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder how many marks or flaws does it have? (hint....answer is probably not zero).
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder how many marks or flaws does it have? (hint....answer is probably not zero). >>

    PCGS MS70 grading standards is no marks or flaws at 5X magnification.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I wonder how many marks or flaws does it have? (hint....answer is probably not zero). >>

    PCGS MS70 grading standards is no marks or flaws at 5X magnification. >>



    I'm aware of the standard. I've yet to see anything graded MS70 that didn't have flaws visible under 5X. I guess it comes down to what "flaw" means. Usually tiny frost breaks
    are the most obvious though. I consider them MS69+ or 69++....just not 70. If another 70 shows up that's nicer than this one, what do you call that, MS70.1?
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would give 50 bucks for it......no more.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,825 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would give 50 bucks for it......no more. >>



    ^
    There are those who would state they'd only offer $50. for the five dimes in your sig line.
    I would consider those persons as rude and arrogant.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only coin in my sig line you could touch for 50 bucks is the Roosie......and it's even older than the Wash commem.image

    No need to get nasty. I was just making an offer....that's what it would be worth to me.

    I wasn't that far off. Just looked at price guide. 45 bucks in 68 and 225 in 69 and that is RED.

    Why would anyone spend moon money on a 70 when you can get a 68 for 45 bucks????
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The only coin in my sig line you could touch for 50 bucks is the Roosie......and it's even older than the Wash commem.image

    No need to get nasty. I was just making an offer....that's what it would be worth to me.

    I wasn't that far off. Just looked at price guide. 45 bucks in 68 and 225 in 69 and that is RED.

    Why would anyone spend moon money on a 70 when you can get a 68 for 45 bucks???? >>




    With a 5X jump from 68 to 69, that would be a starting point for 69 to 70 (ie $1125)....but it would probably be a lot more than that.
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  • << <i>I would give 50 bucks for it......no more. >>



    Would you also sell it for 50$ if you had one? Thats a more respectable way of assigning a value to something you dont really value as much as others do.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would give 50 bucks for it......no more. >>



    Simple put your out bid to the tune of 20X.

    BTW if it does show up I'll probably be among the twenty or so under bidders.

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  • ColonelKlinckColonelKlinck Posts: 385 ✭✭✭
    I would quick sell it for 7,000. to 8,000. before they make another one!
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,825 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1- The only coin in my sig line you could touch for 50 bucks is the Roosie......and it's even older than the Wash commem.image

    2- No need to get nasty. I was just making an offer....that's what it would be worth to me.

    I wasn't that far off. Just looked at price guide. 45 bucks in 68 and 225 in 69 and that is RED.

    3- Why would anyone spend moon money on a 70 when you can get a 68 for 45 bucks???? >>



    Allow me to address your comments:
    1- You couldn't touch the MS70 Washington commemorative for $50. either, so what is your point with your first comment?

    2- You live quite the charmed life if you believe my response to you was "nasty".

    3- Why would anyone spend money on such a smallish little coin as a dime? (See how that logic/game is played?)

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    It's borderline comical when collectors circle the wagons over the series they collect yet are so freely willing to mock other series so readily.
    If you have such distain toward a collector seeking an MS70 Washington commemorative and believe they're worth so little to you, why even open up the thread? The title
    was revealing as to the content, yet you chose to open it, read and then snidely remark in such a fashion you did.
    Why?

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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gentleman...

    I seem to remember seeing this quote around here recently:

    "Can't we all just get along?"
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why? I'll tell you why. It really gripes me when a super high grade modern coin is made and everybody goes GAGA.

    And it's not just because it is a modern Wash commem. I would feel the same about a common Roosie being made in 70.

    I felt the same way about the 2003 Lincoln in 70 several years ago. It's insane to me for a common coin to be priced at 10K in 70 when you can get one in 69 for a hundred bucks. This modern stuff was made yesterday by the billions.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,825 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why? I'll tell you why. It really gripes me when a super high grade modern coin is made and everybody goes GAGA.

    And it's not just because it is a modern Wash commem. I would feel the same about a common Roosie being made in 70.

    I felt the same way about the 2003 Lincoln in 70 several years ago. It's insane to me for a common coin to be priced at 10K in 70 when you can get one in 69 for a hundred bucks. This modern stuff was made yesterday by the billions. >>



    First you state, "I was only making an offer. . ." and now you admit, "It really gripes me..."
    Nice to get to the truth: You just simply don't like the coin and "everybody goes GAGA" collectors are less than.

    Some would call your attitude a snobbish mentality. What would you call it?

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  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭


    << <i>BTW if it does show up I'll probably be among the twenty or so under bidders. >>


    Only twenty? I'll bet it's closer to a hundy. image
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭


    << <i>Why? I'll tell you why. It really gripes me when a super high grade modern coin is made and everybody goes GAGA.

    And it's not just because it is a modern Wash commem. I would feel the same about a common Roosie being made in 70.

    I felt the same way about the 2003 Lincoln in 70 several years ago. It's insane to me for a common coin to be priced at 10K in 70 when you can get one in 69 for a hundred bucks. This modern stuff was made yesterday by the billions. >>




    I think they make more coins now because there are a lot more collectors. Not quite like the old days when there were far fewer people and everybody only needed a dime. Thus, I don't think it's fair that with the old stuff with low mintages only a few thousand people get to have 1 and lots of those people hoard themimage
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,312 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder if it will stay in a private collection or whether it will be auctioned off. >>


    If I were to have made that coin, it'd be out of my hands faster than poop through a goose.
  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    Different strokes for different folks. I repect psgs and if they have only graded 1 ms70 in the last 30 years since the coin was released, that makes it an ultra condition rarity. Some collectors don't go for high end condition rarities when the same coin is avaliable in ms69 for much less money.

    But I know there's collectors out there that have been trying to make a ms70 for a long time. Just because someone wouldn't pay more than $50 for the example doesn't mean it isn't worth more money than that. I thought it was going to happen eventually, and good luck finding another ms70, especially if you play the registry game.
    "It is what it is."
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, it's worth what the owner can get for it. For me not more than $50.

    I know it will go for a LOT more than that because of the Registry.....but not to me.image

    I'm with messydesk!image
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would pay $2,500. no questions asked for the MS70. Those familiar with this coin will be laughing at my minor, pittance of an offer. Those who are not familiar with this coin do not understand how beat up they come. I tried for years to make one and finally gave up.

    The killer points on the coin's obverse are:
    1. Washington's forehead
    2. Washington's nose
    3. Washington's hand
    4. The entire horse's head and
    5. water spots in the field.

    Reverse problems are:
    1. Marks in the field above Mount Vernon
    2. Marks in and around the eagle
    3. Water spots

    I have looked at roughly 100,000 of these through the years and the best I have ever done was an MS69. If you happen to have one and the plastic has a corner which looks like it was taken off with a hole punch, that is one I have looked at and marked so I would not look at it again. In MS70, this is a rarity!
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dimeman - With all due resect, I believe you are dangerously close to violating the rules of these boards with your continuous mean-spirited attacks on those coin series you chose not to collect. In fact, you may actually be over that line. Here on this thread, you are ridiculing a coin I have personally spent about 29 years trying to locate ... even before PCGS was ever formed. A perfect or close to perfect 1982 G Wash Half Dollar Commem. You have no clue how difficult it is to locate this coin in near perfect condition. I have 29 years on the job trying to find one. I suspect this coin in near perfect/perfect condition is harder to locate than you could ever imagine. Suffice it to say, you have no idea what you are talking about as you speak in generalities (e.g. "billions struck") on a highly specialized numismatic set of coins... namely the Half Dollar modern commem set ... a set by the way that I have personally shared a number 1 PCGS set ranking on throughout the years. Why not open your mind to discovering why this particular half dollar commem is so darn tough in near perfect/perfect condition while other half dollar commems in the series are far, far easier to locate that way.

    There is still time to open your mind Dimeman.

    Wondercoin

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wondercoin - with all due respect. I have not said one mean spirited thing. I have simply stated that to me this coin is worth $50 and that is all it is worth to me. And I have never stated that one of these is not hard to find in perfect condition. To me it just doesn't matter. I sold mine for silver when silver hit $41 or 2. If I collected these a MS68 would be plenty good for me.

    If you look at my sets I don't play the super high grade game that a lot of you do.image
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have not said one mean spirited thing. >>

    "Why would anyone spend moon money on a 70 when you can get a 68 for 45 bucks????"

    Actually, it appeared to be more condescending than mean spirited.
  • ColonelKlinckColonelKlinck Posts: 385 ✭✭✭


    << <i>A perfect or close to perfect 1982 G Wash Half Dollar Commem. You have no clue how difficult it is to locate this coin in near perfect condition. I have 29 years on the job trying to find one. I suspect this coin in near perfect/perfect condition is harder to locate than you could ever imagine. >>



    I feel your painimage

    Years ago I submitted close to hundred examples I cherry-picked knowing that there had to be at least 1 measly MS69 in the batch; alas to no avail. All MS68 with a smattering of 67's for good measure.image
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,825 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wondercoin - with all due respect. I have not said one mean spirited thing. I have simply stated that to me this coin is worth $50 and that is all it is worth to me. And I have never stated that one of these is not hard to find in perfect condition. To me it just doesn't matter. I sold mine for silver when silver hit $41 or 2. If I collected these a MS68 would be plenty good for me.

    If you look at my sets I don't play the super high grade game that a lot of you do*.image >>



    Yet you've already responded five times (so far) to this thread.
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    *Yeah, that's not mean spirited.

    image

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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "This modern stuff was made yesterday by the billions."

    Condescending, mean-spirited, or what have you ... just very negative in nature (no?) especially on a thread involving a modern commem made 30 years ago with a much, much smaller mintage.

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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Congrats to the maker of this coin!

    Those who think this coin is worthless, go find a raw one and make a 68!!! Bet you'd have a tough time doing it.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Misquoted again. I have never said it was worthless. I'm sure someone will outbid my $50 by a bunch!image

    I couldn't care less.....and since Braddick is counting my replies.....this is the LAST one! image
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeeeesss. Counting to a single digit is a complex move.

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure someone will outbid my $50 by a bunch!

    I did! My bid is $2,500. image
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bought the coin (a website purchase or otherwise protocol might have dictated a different way of handling the return) at a very good price and it came in today. The coin is not even close to being an MS70 in my opinion. Sure I could send it off to an auction and no doubt some plastic registry set collector might even pay $7,500 or $10,000 or even more for it and I would make a very nice quick profit. But, the coin is heading to Don Willis tomorrow so he can (likely) remove it from the pop report, place the coin in the proper holder it belongs with the submitting dealer's permission so it costs PCGS nothing in the process and I can get a refund of my purchase price.

    Too bad ... I would to have loved to fill the hole in my set I have been trying to fill for decades with a truly perfect coin, but not this way.

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm saddened to hear it wouldn't make a true MS70! image
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