My Personal List of most Undervalued and Underrated PSA cards
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These are cards I am actively looking for:
1) 1980/81 Topps Magic/Bird PSA 9 or 10
When I look at the PSA 9 Jordan's going for upwards of 2K and this card barely breaking 1K, I shake my head. Here we have 2 of the 3 biggest superstars ever (arguably) on one Rookie Card ina very conditions sensitive set that is super hard to find. We have almost 2200 Jordans at PSA 9 or better (18%) and 449 Bird/Johnsons (7.5%). There will be many more Jordans popping up as people continue to hold on to wax boxes...not so much for the 1980/81 Topps stuff. Think we see a correction
2) 1986 Topps Steve Young PSA 9
Insanely difficult card to find in Mint. Only 59? Wow, unheard of. For a Superstar HOF QB. Granted there are still a lot of unopened material out there so this will go up but it's super rare
3) 1984 Donruss Joe Carter PSA 10
One of the best players of the 8-0's and 90's with one of the biggest hits in World Series history. This one can still be had for 80-100 bucks which for a PSA 10 in the 84D set is a bargain
4) 1979 Topps Ozzie Smith PSA 9 or 10
Super rare in Mint condition makes it super desirable IMO. This is the guy that changed Baseball and made defense a huge weapon. The Wizard of Oz is a legend and this card should only go up
5) 1978 Topps Molitor/Trammel
Again, a cool card with 2 superstar Rookies, though most just look at the Molitor. Lots of printing and cutting issues make a Mint card very rare. Just think for $200, it's a great price and can only go up.
Just sharing some thoughts...and if anyone wants to sell any of these I am always listening
1) 1980/81 Topps Magic/Bird PSA 9 or 10
When I look at the PSA 9 Jordan's going for upwards of 2K and this card barely breaking 1K, I shake my head. Here we have 2 of the 3 biggest superstars ever (arguably) on one Rookie Card ina very conditions sensitive set that is super hard to find. We have almost 2200 Jordans at PSA 9 or better (18%) and 449 Bird/Johnsons (7.5%). There will be many more Jordans popping up as people continue to hold on to wax boxes...not so much for the 1980/81 Topps stuff. Think we see a correction
2) 1986 Topps Steve Young PSA 9
Insanely difficult card to find in Mint. Only 59? Wow, unheard of. For a Superstar HOF QB. Granted there are still a lot of unopened material out there so this will go up but it's super rare
3) 1984 Donruss Joe Carter PSA 10
One of the best players of the 8-0's and 90's with one of the biggest hits in World Series history. This one can still be had for 80-100 bucks which for a PSA 10 in the 84D set is a bargain
4) 1979 Topps Ozzie Smith PSA 9 or 10
Super rare in Mint condition makes it super desirable IMO. This is the guy that changed Baseball and made defense a huge weapon. The Wizard of Oz is a legend and this card should only go up
5) 1978 Topps Molitor/Trammel
Again, a cool card with 2 superstar Rookies, though most just look at the Molitor. Lots of printing and cutting issues make a Mint card very rare. Just think for $200, it's a great price and can only go up.
Just sharing some thoughts...and if anyone wants to sell any of these I am always listening
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I am looking for one myself ...
52 Bowman Mantle is another card that I think can go on the list. It is a beautiful image and a 60 yr old card of one of the hobby's most popular players yet it dwells in the shadow of both the 51 RC and the 52 Topps. I have been eyeing a few lately and doing my homework on VCP and am shocked with how affordable this card is.
there are no other major chase cards in the '80-'81 set, but i suppose this could work either way, particularly to those who desire or treasure a Gem Mint example of the Bird/Erving/Magic card.
Jordan, on the other hand, transcends just about everything we know about modern collecting and his '86 Fleer card is the spotlight performer for a very popular set.
i don't see much change happening, unless you want to justify the opinion that it is the high grade JORDAN Rookie which is still undervalued and continues to perform at higher levels every day.
I would agree with #1 for the most part but thats about it.
Do you really think $20,852.40 for 1979 Topps Ozzie Smith PSA 10 is Undervalued and Underrated? With lots of room to go up? Ohh man, I would think just the opposite, this card is going down over time same goes for the PSA 9's which have been trending down for the past two years. I promise you the likes of 4sc are going to be busting a ton of 1979 to sub these in hopes of hitting some more Smith 9-10's only raising the pops on each, too much money for them to not try imo.
Anytime I hear something like this - it's a great price and can only go up............makes me think of the real estate market a few years go, how did that turn out, lol.
Insanely difficult card to find in Mint. Only 59? Wow, unheard of. For a Superstar HOF QB. Granted there are still a lot of unopened material out there so this will go up but it's super rare
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First, i apoligize for this horrible pic, took it quick this morning. pulled this Young from the recent BBCE rip. Corners are good, color is good, no print dots, but centering is not ideal. Would this centering allow it to have a shot at a 9?
<< <i>Interesting first post, welcome aboard.
I would agree with #1 for the most part but thats about it.
Do you really think $20,852.40 for 1979 Topps Ozzie Smith PSA 10 is Undervalued and Underrated? With lots of room to go up? Ohh man, I would think just the opposite, this card is going down over time same goes for the PSA 9's which have been trending down for the past two years. I promise you the likes of 4sc are going to be busting a ton of 1979 to sub these in hopes of hitting some more Smith 9-10's only raising the pops on each, too much money for them to not try imo.
Anytime I hear something like this - it's a great price and can only go up............makes me think of the real estate market a few years go, how did that turn out, lol. >>
Fair enough. That's why I posted, to get everyone's thoughts.
I know most everyone would say cards from the 50's and 60's would be the ones to go up since there are no unopened boxes left and that makes sense, but I am a lover of 70's and 80's cards as that's what I grew up with. I should preface my post with "The 5 most underrated cards of the 70's and 80's", and that's what I came up with.
What would be your thoughts on the cards from these eras?
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While Trammell and Molitor may be superstars in your eyes, they have a very small fan collecting base and to paint such a broad brush that they can only go up is foolish.
I dont think any of those are going up either. As far as what I do think will be going up are scarce test and odd ball issues from the 70's and 80's, things like 1970 Topps cloth stickers, 1973 Topps Comics, etc. Cards like this is not going down imo- 1972 TOPPS CANDY LIDS TEST ISSUE NOLAN RYAN, 1974 TOPPS DECKLE EDGE NOLAN RYAN WHITE BACK, 1977 VENEZUELAN LEAGUE BASEBALL STICKERS JOHNNY BENCH, 1971 BAZOOKA NUMBERED BERT CAMPANERIS/ORLANDO CEPEDA/PETE ROSE HAND CUT-PANEL, etc. I think to a certain degree Football cards from the 70's-80's are a but underrated and think they have more room to go up because of the growing popularity of the NFL vs other sports, the problem I see with all mainstream topps/donruss/fleer/etc issues is there are thousands and thousands of cards to still be subbed and as the pop reports rise the values go in the other direction. All you have to do is watch when companies like 4SC start hitting certain sets and watch the price go down, I have seen cards where they have tripled the pop and seen the price go down 75% to were the price of a 9 was less than the cost of the grading.
<< <i>"I know most everyone would say cards from the 50's and 60's would be the ones to go up since there are no unopened boxes left and that makes sense, but I am a lover of 70's and 80's cards as that's what I grew up with. I should preface my post with "The 5 most underrated cards of the 70's and 80's", and that's what I came up with."
I dont think any of those are going up either. As far as what I do think will be going up are scarce test and odd ball issues from the 70's and 80's, things like 1970 Topps cloth stickers, 1973 Topps Comics, etc. Cards like this is not going down imo- 1972 TOPPS CANDY LIDS TEST ISSUE NOLAN RYAN, 1974 TOPPS DECKLE EDGE NOLAN RYAN WHITE BACK, 1977 VENEZUELAN LEAGUE BASEBALL STICKERS JOHNNY BENCH, 1971 BAZOOKA NUMBERED BERT CAMPANERIS/ORLANDO CEPEDA/PETE ROSE HAND CUT-PANEL, etc. I think to a certain degree Football cards from the 70's-80's are a but underrated and think they have more room to go up because of the growing popularity of the NFL vs other sports, the problem I see with all mainstream topps/donruss/fleer/etc issues is there are thousands and thousands of cards to still be subbed and as the pop reports rise the values go in the other direction. All you have to do is watch when companies like 4SC start hitting certain sets and watch the price go down, I have seen cards where they have tripled the pop and seen the price go down 75% to were the price of a 9 was less than the cost of the grading. >>
I have seen a few posts alluding to 4sc. Is this 4 sharp corners on eBay? Does he have some sort of power I should know about? LOL. Does he just have some unopened cases of all this stuff he's sitting on to submit? Not sure what everyone's referring to. I know he is all over the place on eBay
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I think one of the most under valued cards of all time is the 1979 Topps Earl Campbell. It is the only standard issue card made of him in his playing days. I think it is a must have for any football card collector.
As for the Bird/Magic rookie vs. Jordan Fleer comparison-- it's simply demand. Jordan has a larger collector base that craves this card in high grade form. I agree, I would take the Bird/Magic at its current price, easily knowing there is more room to grow in the future.
I do disagree with others though about a ton of unopened product will produce a ton of high grade cards as people open it. First, I doubt a large hoard of unopened '86 Fleer basketball exists. Even if it does, at its current box/case values, it is doubtfull anyone would buy at these levels to break it for potential Jordan 10s. A few maybe. But not a ton. I've been breaking all sorts of 80's stuff, and it all isn't gem PSA 10. In fact, far from it. I think the quality potential of unopened 80's stuff is overrated by many. There is a huge supply of some product, but how many people are opening it in search of that gem card of common players who you couldn't sell raw for a penny? I just don't see it. Superstars, maybe. But it is really tough to pull gems in any box/case. Try opening a junk case and see.
Great topic, and opinions.
I know there is a higher demand for Jordan, but I gotta believe the interest in it will start to drop as more and more pop up on eBay. You know, I started to build a PSA 9 1986 FLeer Set then realized it was a lose money proposition. I think they're all too expensive considering the number out there. Do a search of PSA 9 1986 Fleer Jordans on eBay and you'll see anywhere from 5-10 at a given time. Soon, everyone that wants one is gonna have one. Do a search for the Bird/Magic, you're lucky to find one. Much scarcer and I think demand will go up as people become more aware of what an incredibly cool card it is and hard to find in Mint
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I do think there's still a lot of 80 Topps basketball wax out there, but the condition sensitive nature of the card will make it tough 9+ grades. While you might say there are 4-5x more 86F Jordans, I would argue he's 10x + more times popular.
I consider the USFL Young his true rookie card since it was a pro league that competed with the NFL for players out of college (and wasnt the NFL-reject league) and the set was issued by Topps (and not some no name company).
-A problem with the Bird/Magic rookie, its in this wasteland of late 70's, early 80's. The Alex English 79/80 rookie is probably more underrated. A $20 card? Or the Kevin McHale.
The Bird/Magic rookie in PSA 9 should probably be pushing $1,200-1,400.
-I would vote, 1990 Topps Frank Thomas NNOF? I think its very iconic, like the 89 Upper Deck Griffey or 89 Hoops David Robinson. Its one of the first big error cards to hold its value. 500 home runs, career .300 average, he should be an easy hall of famer.
Many of the cards could get stored away for a long time. In another 10 years, when people want great cards from 1989-93 or 95...the 89 Upper Deck griffey pop will go up, same with 90 leaf, or 92 bowman cards. The Thomas though could stick out as a modern rarity.
-52 bowman mantle, I agree with. It's a shadow compared to 51 bowman, 52 topps, 53 topps and 53 bowman.
<< <i>While Trammell and Molitor may be superstars in your eyes, they have a very small fan collecting base and to paint such a broad brush that they can only go up is foolish. >>
In other words, neither of them ever played in the Northeast.
Dave