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What does SBC stand for?

EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
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I know this is SGC's earliest presentation into grading.
I was just wondering what the acronym SBC stands for.
Anyone know? BTW, the flip is just downright ugly and having it in
that holder would scare off potential buyers.

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  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭
    Superlative Baseball Card
  • ToroToro Posts: 1,515
    Is this really SGC's first foray into the graded market? I'd figure it's a mom's basement company.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    SBC was actually Merkle's company in Michigan BEFORE he founded and began SGC with the NGC group in New Jersey. A lot of the SBC qualities were used in the initial SGC product, but SGC has never stated that SBC products fall under their umbrella. Heck, a lot of Merkle's work (first and second generation SGC single grade flips 1999 and earlier) wouldn't hold a candle to the current standards.
  • Sean1125Sean1125 Posts: 3,479


    << <i>Is this really SGC's first foray into the graded market? I'd figure it's a mom's basement company. >>



    Everyone has to start somewhere.
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    I first saw SBC (Merkel) set up at a 1989 or '90 Chicago Sun-Times show touting their new
    grading system. I thought they borrowed some of their ways from the Alan Hagar Group
    but I could be wrong. I once had a '57 topps Roy Campanella SBC 92 crossover to a PSA 8.
    I wish I had a scan of it but this was before I owned a scanner, pre '98.

    I first saw PSA set up at the 1995 National in St. Louis, but I'm sure they
    were doing shows earlier than that.

    I saw my first PSA graded cards at Neil Gublitz's table at the 1993 Chicago National.
    Neil advertised in the SCD back then, and called his company 'What a Card'.
    I don't remember PSA being set up at that '93 National, but they might have had a table there
    and I could've missed it.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bought a super early (judging by the cert number) SBC card off of ebay (at a nice price)... but the more interesting thing is the hologram on the back that answers the original question, which I had wondered about also - Noah had it correct.

    SBC = Superlative Baseball Card Certification

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    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fall 2014...I had a 1958 Ernie Banks #310 SBC-7 crossover to a PSA-8!
    mint_only_pls
  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭


    << <i>BTW, the flip is just downright ugly and having it in
    that holder would scare off potential buyers. >>




    I don't think it's any worse than psa's flip.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think it's any worse than psa's flip. >>



    Except for Merkle's mustard stain on mine. image
    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    Small block Chevy, of course.
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    Session/Border Controller in my line of work. Cool slab, I've never seen one of those.
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  • esedranskesedransk Posts: 4 ✭

    I have a tri-card Bird, Erving, Magic that I’ve had since I was a kid that got a 92 SBC rating and serial number 1923.

    Should I keep it in its case or break it and submit it to PSA for the hopes it gets a 9?

  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am as big a fan of SGC as anyone - but SBC was lax. I would bet most SBC 92s are PSA 7s or even 6s. I have one SBC card (a 1954 Bowman Campanella in a 92). I would expect it would cross as a 7 but would be more surprised with an 8 than a 6.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn’t look like the L/R centering would allow for a PSA 9.

    My 1972 Baseball and Wacky Pack Registry Sets
  • jordangretzkyfanjordangretzkyfan Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Left/right centering and the smudge between Erving and Johnson land that in a PSA 6 as the best case. Still will likely sell for more in a PSA holder, since buyers will know it is authentic and unaltered.

  • esedranskesedransk Posts: 4 ✭

    The smudge is on the case. The card is perfect except for the centering. I’ll try and get a better photo of the card.

  • esedranskesedransk Posts: 4 ✭

    I thought PSA is friendly to cards that are in great condition but aren’t centered?

  • Jayman1982Jayman1982 Posts: 467 ✭✭✭

    @esedransk said:
    I thought PSA is friendly to cards that are in great condition but aren’t centered?

    No, they adhere pretty strictly to their centering grading standards, you still need to be within their posted ranges for a specific grade...

    A PSA 9 Mint card must be 60/40 or better on the front. Your card looks to be 75/25 on the front, meaning it would likely be a PSA 7 based on that criteria alone

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brad31 said:
    I am as big a fan of SGC as anyone - but SBC was lax. I would bet most SBC 92s are PSA 7s or even 6s. I have one SBC card (a 1954 Bowman Campanella in a 92). I would expect it would cross as a 7 but would be more surprised with an 8 than a 6.

    I agree with this. Attractive card that appears to be centered a bit low and to the right. I predict a 7.

    I sent in a well centered 1967 Killebrew 92 to PSA and it came back an 8.

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
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