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derrybderryb Posts: 36,792 ✭✭✭✭✭
Friday action could be very interesting

Almost sold 4000 shares of USLV this afternoon, but something told me a swan is in the works. This could be better than a silly old swan. (sorry, gotta brag on the "good" hunches, they don't come often).

Edited to correct day of week in link. (we retirees sometimes loose track of what day it is).

"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Monday action could be very interesting

    Almost sold 4000 shares of USLV this afternoon, something told me the weekend was gonna bring us a swan. This could be better than a silly old swan. >>



    "While it is unknown if this is merely a bull trap to get yet another bubble going, then to slaughter everyone with the same relentless barrage of margin hikes as we saw in the spring of 2011, or simply volumes in commodities have gotten so low that even the CME is willing to allow a little price appreciation in exchange for participation is unknown, but as of April 16 silver initial and maintenance margins will be 12.5% lower, while copper margins are declining by 20%. "

    I'll go with the former rather than the latter regarding the article quote.



  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,792 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"While it is unknown if this is merely a bull trap to get yet another bubble going, then to slaughter everyone with the same relentless barrage of margin hikes as we saw in the spring of 2011, or simply volumes in commodities have gotten so low that even the CME is willing to allow a little price appreciation in exchange for participation is unknown, but as of April 16 silver initial and maintenance margins will be 12.5% lower, while copper margins are declining by 20%. "

    I'll go with the former rather than the latter regarding the article quote. >>


    I'll settle for a temporary price spike on Friday. The advantage of paper allows one to liquidate at the push of a button.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So that explains some of the push up this week and the capping at $1650 and then $1662 and now at $1680. Should be ok until Tuesday morning when next
    week's OE effects start to filter in. Didn't the last time they did this lead to another a$$ whipping shortly thereafter? Volumes are down though over the past 6-12 months
    so they probably need the money. As less and less people play on the Comex, eventually it becomes more and more irrelevant.

    Hmm, why no gold margin reduction?
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,792 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hmm, why no gold margin reduction? >>


    One trap at a time. image

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darn manipulators!!

    The last cut was on Feb 9 at about just about the same price and silver dropped about 6% over the next 5 days.

    Good thing they leaked the news earlier today.


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    Knowledge is the enemy of fear



  • << <i>Darn manipulators!!

    The last cut was on Feb 9 at about just about the same price and silver dropped about 6% over the next 5 days.

    Good thing they leaked the news earlier today. >>



    Just goes to show that news doesn't move markets. One more case of an unexpected reaction. Markets make the news.
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mhammerman's concept of "mullets" comes to mind.
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    I knew it would happen.
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are lowering margins because speculative interest in silver is drying up. Without speculative money, silver price will stagnate. Seems we've heard that forcast before.

    Sideways is a bull market's best friend, embrace it.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gotta love the way they leaked this announcement yest and got the sheeple involved. Poor bastages didnt know what hit 'em.

    Silver better make a stand next week, otherwise the roars of manipulation will be deafening.

    Lets hope $27 holds this time.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Almost sold 4000 shares of USLV this afternoon, but something told me a swan is in the works

    Looks like you found the black one. Still holding?
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,792 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Almost sold 4000 shares of USLV this afternoon, but something told me a swan is in the works

    Looks like you found the black one. Still holding? >>


    Dumped the USLV as soon as the market opened. Should have dumped yesterday afternoon, gain would have been higher.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • That was a Whip and a Saw!

    Every time for the past month when silver gets extended past the 72 ema on the Hourly May Silver chart, it whipsaws back to the original starting point on the downside.

    Probably by the time I and others recognize the repeat of this action the tide will change. So now I've recognized it, so it can change as of today or now would be good.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Silver has Mon-Tuesday next week to try and get its act back together. From Tuesday afternoon through Friday the mid month OE week should start to hit the silver
    miners. And the past few days they've actually acted stronger than silver bullion. Then come early the following week is regular silver bullion OE week. So this back to back
    set up of about 7-9 trading days could put a further hurt on PMs and miners. It certainly sets up well for further hits if the banksters want to utilize it....regardless of lower CME margins.
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
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