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I (seller) had bad experience on eBay - RESULTS

judgebuckjudgebuck Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭
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I sold a 1958 Topps YL Hank Aaron PSA 5 to a buyer, and I sent it the next morning with delivery confirmation and insurance. The "expected delivery date" shown on the USPS website was March 30. The post office routed it to the northeast rather than towards Wisconsin where the buyer was located. Thus, it got there three days later than the "expected delivery date." The buyer emailed me and said that he was going to leave bad feedback on me, and he then had his bank stop payment on the Paypal payment. I don't know how he did that. Paypal notified me that it was investigating and that the payment funds were being frozen. He kept the card. The buyer has terrible feedback and he has swindled other people. I have 100% feedback and over 1700 feedbacks. What can I expect.

Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you send the card with DC? If it shows dlvd and it was under $250, I can't see how Paypal could take your money if you shipped to a confirmed paypal address.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • judgebuckjudgebuck Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭
    Yes, I sent it with delivery confirmation and insurance. He has the card. USPS "Track and Confirm" shows it as delivered. He has just decided not to pay for it and has stopped payment to Paypal through his bank.

    Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.

  • Sean1125Sean1125 Posts: 3,479


    << <i>Did you send the card with DC? If it shows dlvd and it was under $250, I can't see how Paypal could take your money if you shipped to a confirmed paypal address. >>



    The guy started a bank recall, nothing PP will do over that.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Did you send the card with DC? If it shows dlvd and it was under $250, I can't see how Paypal could take your money if you shipped to a confirmed paypal address. >>



    The guy started a bank recall, nothing PP will do over that. >>



    I don't believe that is correct. While the buyer may have his money refunded by the bank, paypal seller protection should make you whole. I know for a fact that sellers in that same position have gotten paid in that circumstance through paypal. I would definitely call them.

    Edit to add: Out him here so we can block him....I'd also do all in your power to make his life miserable.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • jfkheatjfkheat Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is the auction.
    James

    Aaron
  • judgebuckjudgebuck Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭
    I would strongly recommend blocking him as a bidder. His eBay user name is: wolfsong4u28099. He lives in Mondovi, Wisconsin. Check out his feedback to see how he has swindled other people.

    Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.

  • CrazyMind2017CrazyMind2017 Posts: 1,205 ✭
    blocked
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    The auction state delivery within 5-11 days. I'm sure that even with the reroute, you met that obligation. Contact PayPal, present your case, the DC tracking and delivery confirmation with shipped and received date and the confirmed address and advise about the charge back and I'm sure they'll remove the hold and open a case against the buyer... I wouldn't mention or point out any of his nefarious activity. There's no real need to add that as most of the CS reps won't care. They just want the facts and will act upon them accordingly. Good luck.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    blocked.
  • ezyshooterezyshooter Posts: 711
    Scumbag for sure. Since you have proof of delivery and he got the bank to reverse the charge some how then why wouldn't paypal tell him to send the card back to you? Everybody has a credit card on file with paypal. Paypal can charge his credit card the cost of the auction if he refuses to send back. Before you turn around and say that he can reverse charges on a credit card you still have to prove that you did not recieve the item or a lesser item before reversing the charge.
    This is how i would expect paypal to deal with this matter.
    Hope it makes out in your favour !!
    Good Luck, Steve
    Die Hard Toronto Maple Leafs Fan !!
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Blocked.

    Hope this turns out in your favor in the end. This guy is a $cumbag.

    Joe
    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • bigreddogbigreddog Posts: 1,156
    blocked
  • radmanradman Posts: 89 ✭✭
    I checked his Feedback as buyer; some known dealers like chubs1995, andiehaley, and supermint1 left feedback reporting that this buyer left negative feedback for them

    Feedback for wolfsong4u28099

    yet I can't seem to locate the feedback to which they alluded in the dealers feedback lists, or the buyers 'Feedback left for others' tab -- what am I missing? was it deleted?
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    I think he's referring to his feedback as a seller. And for another seller to be pulling this crap on you is even worse than some ebay noob doing it
  • Yankees001Yankees001 Posts: 1,496 ✭
    This guy sounds great to deal with.
    He's blocked.

    Dave
  • emedina1982emedina1982 Posts: 49
    BLOCKED
    stay above or get found below.
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your first mistake was to send it DC !! Delivery Confirmation means nada !!. The delivery piece can simply be scanned by the carrier and placed in ANY mailbox they want...YES, I had this happen to me. In my case the card was delivered to a nice lady about 3 miles from my house...she was kind enough to look me up and call me.

    So, the only...ONLY way to ship is via pink slip, shich is "signature required", or, insure for over $200, which does the same thing, but I think will cost more. This action forces the recipient to actually sign for the piece and avoid having it accidentally shipped all over the USA. Yes, I realize the prime issue is a delivery time, but with sig required, you have absolute proof that the buyer (or somebody at that address) actually signed for the piece, thus giving you more ammo with eBay/paypal.

    Having said the above, you are obviously dealing with a rip off artist. I suspect eBay/paypal will favor you, how else could they rule? If they rule against you, I would appeal and appeal again.

    Good that you posted this loser's handle!

    GL with this unpleasant saga, pls post results.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    BLOCKED
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MCMLVTopps has a point, I use delivery confirmation on everything, BUT if it's a higher dollar amount (around $100.00 or above) or I have a bad feeling about it, signature confirmation is the way to go.

    Peace of mind............................priceless.

    Joe
    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DO NOT TRUST THIS LIAR ITEM DIDN'T SELL FOR ENOUGH $$ SO SELLER REFUSED TO SHIP icntw8 ( 1350) Mar-21-12 18:45
    Reply by wolfsong4u28099 (Mar-21-12 20:09):
    Typical Loser Trying To Get Something For Nothing!! Muniplitave Buyer!! Avoid!!
    Follow-up by icntw8 (Mar-21-12 20:56):
    ebay is investigating this seller for their lies & reply to feedback you decide!

    Muniplitave buyer!!

    Sorry I bid on your auctions. Buahahahahahaha!!!
  • ezyshooterezyshooter Posts: 711
    DC is not the issue here. The buyer got the card. But since it took longer he decided to leave negative feedback because the card did not arrive in the appropiate time. Took a few extra days so buyer decided he should be able to keep the card without paying for it and since the seller took a few extra days to get there he decided to leave a negative to boot. Once shipped we have no control of how long a package is going to take. Seller mailed it out right away and the post office routed it wrong taking a few extra days.
    Everybody on the same page now?
    Steve
    Die Hard Toronto Maple Leafs Fan !!
  • CollectorAtWorkCollectorAtWork Posts: 859 ✭✭✭
    I don't see any negative feedback, so I assume ebay has fixed this problem. If you send an item with DC, that is less than $250, ebay has seller protection. (For over $250, you need Signature Confirmation.) As long as DC shows delivery, ebay should pull through. You cannot mention that there is an ebay case on feedback, or ebay will remove the feedback and put you on probation.
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  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    I went to block that buyer, and I already had him blocked. I think there
    was another thread about him buying stuff and then leaving buyers negs. and low
    dsr's for no valid reason except spite.

  • judgebuckjudgebuck Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭
    Here is the result of my bad experience: I called Paypal and gave them the delivery confirmation number on the post office receipt. They conducted a brief investigation while I was on the phone, and then immediately released the hold on the funds for the transaction. They then connected me with eBay, and I reported the incident. From the time Paypal notified me that my funds were being held until I called them and they released the fuhds was less than 24 hours. I am relieved and very satisfied with how Paypal handled this. It was a $169.99 transaction.

    Also, the post by handyman that contains feedback on the buyer is not the one from my transaction. I have not left the buyer negative feedback for two reasons: 1) eBay doesn't let sellers leave negative feedback on buyers; and 2) I am afraid of what the swindling buyer might post in reply. I've got my money for the card, and I am happy.

    Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.

  • bxbbxb Posts: 805 ✭✭
    Thanks for sharing.

    Blocked.
    Capecards
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glad to hear you got your money back from paypal. If you follow the rules and send to confirmed address with DC (under $250) or SC (over $250) paypal does cover you even if the buyer files a bank chargeback.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glad it worked out.

    Thanks for the warning on this idiot.

    Joe
    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My comment wasnt about your transaction.

    That was just showing what type of person you were dealing with.

    He used to be a seller and that was a neg he got for selling an item and someone else left him that neg. I thought it was funny because he said the buyer was munipliative because he bid and won his item. But he didnt want to sell it for the price.

    It was just on his feedback.

    It also says the buyers and sellers ebay id which is not yours.
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I went to block that buyer, and I already had him blocked. I think there
    was another thread about him buying stuff and then leaving buyers negs. and low
    dsr's for no valid reason except spite. >>



    +1
  • robbiegiggsrobbiegiggs Posts: 315 ✭✭
    Glad you got your $$$ back.

    Blocked.
  • judgebuckjudgebuck Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭
    handyman,

    I knew your post wasn't intended to be about my transaction, but I didn't want others to be confused. Yes, I encourage others to check his feedback for such as you posted. Thanks.

    Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    +1 for the OP being made whole

    -1 for Sean1125's well-informed opinion


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