Why do you think this set didn't sell?

1960toppsguy

As someone who has just begun to collect this set . . . I thought this would certainly sell. Is it overpriced, no demand or what? Thanks1970 Set

1960toppsguy

alnavman

link doesn't work, without seeing can't comment

1960toppsguy

SORRY, Link does not work, here are the details, opening bid was $5,000

1970-71 Topps Basketball 100% Complete Set of 175 Cards, PSA 8.32 GPA – #8 Current Finest Set on the Registry....All 175 Cards Are Graded PSA 8 NM-MT NQ and Higher!



We will be listing hundreds of cards from the “J Jet J” Collection on eBay over the next several weeks and months, including several high-grade complete sets. This listing is for a complete set of 1970 Topps basketball cards with all 175 cards grading PSA NM-MT 8 NQ and higher. Boasting a set GPA of 8.32, this set is currently ranked #8 on the registry. Click here to see a card by card grade breakdown. The set contains 72 cards graded PSA 9 MINT highlighted by #46 Jerry Lucas, 47 Don Chaney RC, 51 Kevin Loughery, 60 Chet Walker, 63 Bob Dandridge RC, 65 Elgin Baylor, 76 Jeff Mullins, 93 Gail Goodrich, 109 Connie Hawkins AS, 111 Nate Thurmond AS, 114 Oscar Robertson AS, 115 Lou Hudson AS, 124 Matt Guokas RC, 125 Dave Bing, 137 Calvin Murphy RC, 167 Rod Thorn RC, and 169 Playoff Game 2. Two cards in the set are graded PSA NM-MT+ 8.5, #48 Ray Scott and 165 Clem Haskins RC. The remaining 101 cards are graded PSA 8 NM-MT without qualifiers and highlighted by #2 NBA Scoring Avg. Leaders SP, 4 NBA FT Pct. Leaders SP, 10 John Havlicek SP, 13 Pat Riley RC, 31 Lucius Allen SP, 37 Joe Caldwell SP, 50 Wilt Chamberlain, 59 Al Attles SP, 74 Bobby Smith SP RC, 75 Lew Alcindor, 87 Neal Walk SP, 95 Cazzie Russell SP, 104 Bill Hosket SP RC, 123 Pete Maravich RC, 160 Jerry West, and 175 Knicks Celebrate. Four cards are shown below with additional scans available upon request. An incredible opportunity get into the set registry top ten with two mouse clicks!

ShootyBabitt

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halosfan

the “J Jet J” Collection .. some nice sets there

1960toppsguy

Thank You Shooty

brianwintersfan

I think some of their prices for these basketball singles are crazy. Stuff I was interested in but not paying that kind of money for. If they don't mind sitting on cards for years then they can ask whatever they want. The Levi Bleem school of business.

Dboneesq

<< <i>As someone who has just begun to collect this set . . . I thought this would certainly sell. Is it overpriced, no demand or what? Thanks >>


Since it is not that large of a set, have you gone card by card and listed the VCPs? Just curious ... I think that may answer your question.

JoeBanzai

I am not a Basketball collector, but even though the set seems very nice, the price seems high.

Looks like this set only has about 5 cards that go for over $100.00 in PSA8.

Joe

Griffins

I think there are also people that remember what went on here 8 years ago and will never buy from this seller.

bbuckner22

All of those basketball sets are way overpriced. What went on with Mint State years ago?

cards651

<< <i>I think some of their prices for these basketball singles are crazy. Stuff I was interested in but not paying that kind of money for. If they don't mind sitting on cards for years then they can ask whatever they want. The Levi Bleem school of business. >>



Very true, brianwintersfan. Their singles are so overpriced, it's ridiculous. They obviously have the right to charge what they want but I question the approach. I actually found one or two cards that I was doing a general search for. At first, the price seemed a little high to me but I really needed the card and clicked on the link for more info. Once I saw this was the seller, I simply assumed that I had badly miscalculated a reasonable price since I wanted the card so badly. I had clearly fooled myself because all of their cards are so overpriced. Who was selling the card actually convinced me to walk away.

Also, I love how PSA allows this 'Mint State' operation to use the collector site as a sales floor. Every set says to contact so and so. I e-mailed Joe O. about this and received no response.

Kevin

cards651

Below is my 8/25/11 e-mail to Joe O. which failed to garner a response:


Joe:

My understanding is that selling is prohibited within the PSA Set Registry. The following sets are clearly a dealer's inventory for sale:

http://www.psacard.com/PSASETREGISTRY/OtherSets.aspx?m=1733

Some of these sets were retired by others and then re-entered under 'Mint State' essentially creating two sets within the All Time Registry. Cluttering the registry with dealer inventory and creating multiple sets detracts from the pleasure of using the registry.



Kevin

mtcards

$5k seems a little high....Especially since you could probably buy most of the common singles in PSA 8 and just look for good raw to finish the set out and grade later.

1960toppsguy

Thank You for the responses

brianwintersfan

<< <i>Below is my 8/25/11 e-mail to Joe O. which failed to garner a response:


Joe:

My understanding is that selling is prohibited within the PSA Set Registry. The following sets are clearly a dealer's inventory for sale:

http://www.psacard.com/PSASETREGISTRY/OtherSets.aspx?m=1733

Some of these sets were retired by others and then re-entered under 'Mint State' essentially creating two sets within the All Time Registry. Cluttering the registry with dealer inventory and creating multiple sets detracts from the pleasure of using the registry.



Kevin >>



Not really a shock is it?

cards651

As they say, 'The silence was deafening.' The lack of a response spoke volumes.

perkdog

Im suprised Rick Snyder is getting flak. I have done bussiness with Rick a bunch of times many times regarding several thousand dollar deals and the guy was awesome to deal with and worked with me so we were both happy.

Because of this fact I cant help but post my opinion on the matter especially when refference is made to 707, not once has Levi ever ever nudged even a little bit on a card but Rick has numerous times. I bet if one was interested in that set he would be willing to negotiate.

I dont have a horse in any race anymore as Im long removed from this greed filled bussiness of sportscards.

markj111

Because of this fact I cant help but post my opinion on the matter especially when refference is made to 707, not once has Levi ever ever nudged even a little bit on a card but Rick has numerous times. I bet if one was interested in that set he would be willing to negotiate.

I have negotiated successfully with Levi.

halosfan

For the record ...On some of these sets you are still dealing with the original owner just through the seller

1960toppsguy

The above cooment makes no sense at all, does it?

1960toppsguy

whoops, not halofans comment, the one above that

halosfan

OK on some of the sets i had asked questions before this thread even showed up and it all depends on the original owner ... not the selling party .. or so the story goes from Mint State

cards651

perkdog - a 'greed filled business' it most certainly is...'74 Topps PSA Set

This is an absurdly priced item as a quick example. There are numerous commons equally bad. Anyone can charge what they want. I do not have any issue with that. At the same time, it's not really 'taking flak' if someone points out the absurd pricing.

I don't have any real beef with 'Mint State' either. As a collector of some of these sets, I was very disappointed to be knocked down a slot because someone quit the hobby, 'retired' their set and then re-listed the exact same cards in another set that is serving as a sales tool. The fact that PSA claims the Registry is for collectors and then will not even respond to a reasonable e-mail is frustrating.

I have simply un-published the sets I am working on and I no longer compare my sets to other published sets. It takes some of the fun out of it and I purchase fewer cards.

My published sets..For Sale will be used to sell my cards. I will try to add 'coded' prices at some point.

Kevin

perkdog

<< <i>Because of this fact I cant help but post my opinion on the matter especially when refference is made to 707, not once has Levi ever ever nudged even a little bit on a card but Rick has numerous times. I bet if one was interested in that set he would be willing to negotiate.

I have negotiated successfully with Levi. >>




Good for you, I have not ever.

perkdog

<< <i>perkdog - a 'greed filled business' it most certainly is...'74 Topps PSA Set

This is an absurdly priced item as a quick example. There are numerous commons equally bad. Anyone can charge what they want. I do not have any issue with that. At the same time, it's not really 'taking flak' if someone points out the absurd pricing.

I don't have any real beef with 'Mint State' either. As a collector of some of these sets, I was very disappointed to be knocked down a slot because someone quit the hobby, 'retired' their set and then re-listed the exact same cards in another set that is serving as a sales tool. The fact that PSA claims the Registry is for collectors and then will not even respond to a reasonable e-mail is frustrating.

I have simply un-published the sets I am working on and I no longer compare my sets to other published sets. It takes some of the fun out of it and I purchase fewer cards.

My published sets..For Sale will be used to sell my cards. I will try to add 'coded' prices at some point.

Kevin >>



Kevin, I understand your point and as I said I dont have a horse in the race and 100% dont agree with PSA allowing anyone to prostitute their items on the registry, heck I remember one time I listed my second set of Bowman Large cards there and the set name was "For Trade" LOL and it lasted less than a day before PSA erased it, it should be a fair playing field for everyone.

I might be the biggest 707 hater on the boards because of a few interactions with levi years ago, especially when I first got into the card scene. Its nothing personal against the guy but I do like to spew my venom when his name is brought up especially when its in comparison to a guy I had far better dealings with.

Paul

Also we can compare sets or cards between the 2 guys and I garuntee Levi has way more overpriced items in his endless inventory.

perkdog

<< <i>whoops, not halofans comment, the one above that >>



That was Mark attempting to Quote my statement above him

cards651

Thanks, Paul. I agree that Levi's cards are absurdly overpriced. Have never purchased from him. Interesting story about your set being taken down. I just don't understand how PSA runs this Registry thing. I am really at the stage of trying to stay away from it. Just not worth the headaches. - Kevin