New Registry Set Post-War All-Time Great Pirates Auto's?

BPorter26

I'm hoping to get some input on who you think should be on this Post-War All-Time Great Pittsburgh Pirates auto set. Here's my list and let me know who we should cut or add. I think this set should be players that had a major impact on the playing field for the Pirates. One of the criteria is they had to play at least 5 full seasons with the Pirates and second they had to be in a top 50 major stat category. (AVG, H, HR and RBI'S) (W, ERA, SO, SV)

I understand that Clemente, Stargell and Veale are tough auto's to find which will make this set even more challenging.

1948 Leaf or Bowman Ralph Kiner
1951 Bowman Vern Law
1952 Topps Bob Friend
1952 Topps Dick Groat
1953 Topps Roy Face
1955 Topps Roberto Clemente
1957 Topps Bill Mazersoki
1962 Topps Bob Veale
1963 Topps Willie Stargell
1965 Topps Steve Blass
1968 Topps Manny Sanguillen
1969 Topps Al Oliver
1974 Topps Dave Parker
1974 Topps Bill Madlock
1976 Topps John Candelaria
1976 Topps Kent Tekulve
1981 Topps Tony Pena
1984 Donrus Andy Van Slyle
1986 Topps Traded or 1987 Fleer / Topps Bobby Bonilla
1986 Topps Traded or 1987 Fleer / Topps Barry Bonds
1987 Topps or Donruss Doug Drabek
1993 Topps Stadium Jason Kendall

MBMiller25

Bump, looks good

alifaxwa2

I imported the stats from baseball-reference into excel and did a bunch of sorting and here is the eligibility list;
PITCHERS;
Al McBean
Bob Friend
Bob Kipper
Bob Moose
Bob Patterson
Bob Veale
Bob Walk
Bruce Kison
Cecilio Guante
Dave Giusti
Denny Neagle
Dock Ellis
Don Robinson
Doug Drabek
Evan Meek
Francisco Cordova
Grant Jackson
Harvey Haddix
Ian Snell
Jason Christiansen
Jason Schmidt
Jerry Reuss
Jim Bibby
Jim Rooker
Joe Gibbon
John Candelaria
John Grabow
John Smiley
Jon Lieber
Kent Tekulve
Kip Wells
Kris Benson
Larry McWilliams
Luke Walker
Matt Capps
Mike Williams
Murry Dickson
Paul Maholm
Paul Wagner
Ramon Hernandez
Randy Tomlin
Rich Loiselle
Rick Rhoden
Rod Scurry
Ron Kline
Roy Face
Salomon Torres
Scott Sauerbeck
Stan Belinda
Steve Blass
Vern Law
Zach Duke
Zane Smith

BATTERS
Al Martin
Al Oliver
Andy Van Slyke
Aramis Ramirez
Barry Bonds
Bill Madlock
Bill Mazeroski HOF
Bill Robinson
Bill Virdon
Bob Robertson
Bob Skinner
Bobby Bonilla
Brian Giles
Craig Wilson
Dave Cash
Dave Parker
Dick Groat
Dick Stuart
Don Slaught
Donn Clendenon
Frank Thomas
Freddy Sanchez
Gene Alley
Gene Clines
Jack Wilson
Jason Bay
Jason Kendall
Jason Thompson
Jay Bell
Jeff King
Jim Morrison
Johnny Ray
Kevin Young
Lee Lacy
Manny Mota
Manny Sanguillen
Matty Alou
Mike Easler
Nate McLouth
Omar Moreno
Orlando Merced
Ralph Kiner HOF
Rennie Stennett
Richie Hebner
Richie Zisk
Rob Mackowiak
Roberto Clemente HOF
Ryan Doumit
Sid Bream
Smoky Burgess
Tony Pena
Wally Westlake
Willie Stargell HOF

alifaxwa2

Sorted more, these guys are in 3 of the 4 top 50s;
BATTING
Al Oliver
Andy Van Slyke
Barry Bonds
Bill Madlock
Bill Mazeroski HOF
Bill Virdon
Bob Skinner
Bobby Bonilla
Brian Giles
Dave Parker
Donn Clendenon
Jason Kendall
Jay Bell
Johnny Ray
Kevin Young
Manny Sanguillen
Orlando Merced
Richie Hebner
Roberto Clemente HOF
Willie Stargell HOF

PITCHING
Al McBean
Bob Friend
Bob Moose
Bob Veale
Bruce Kison
Dock Ellis
Don Robinson
Doug Drabek
Jerry Reuss
Jim Rooker
John Candelaria
John Smiley
Kent Tekulve
Luke Walker
Murry Dickson
Rick Rhoden
Ron Kline
Roy Face
Vern Law

alifaxwa2

Now that I have done that, I think Frank Thomas needs to be added.

mrpeanut39

Reports are that he was somewhat of a d*** and there are whispers that he roided, but the numbers Brian Giles put up should merit inclusion.

BPorter26

Sorted more, these guys are in 3 of the 4 top 50s;
BATTING
Al Oliver
Andy Van Slyke
Barry Bonds
Bill Madlock
Bill Mazeroski HOF
Bill Virdon
Bob Skinner
Bobby Bonilla
Brian Giles
Dave Parker
Donn Clendenon
Jason Kendall
Jay Bell
Johnny Ray
Kevin Young
Manny Sanguillen
Orlando Merced
Richie Hebner
Roberto Clemente HOF
Willie Stargell HOF

PITCHING
Al McBean
Bob Friend
Bob Moose
Bob Veale
Bruce Kison
Dock Ellis
Don Robinson
Doug Drabek
Jerry Reuss
Jim Rooker
John Candelaria
John Smiley
Kent Tekulve
Luke Walker
Murry Dickson
Rick Rhoden
Ron Kline
Roy Face
Vern Law

I agree with you on almost every hitter except for Kevin Young and Orlando Merced. I just don't feel the warrant All-Time Great.

alifaxwa2

<< <i>
I agree with you on almost every hitter except for Kevin Young and Orlando Merced. I just don't feel the warrant All-Time Great. >>


That was simply the list of those in 3 of 4 top 50s, I wasn't saying all those should be in this.

BPorter26

<< <i>That was simply the list of those in 3 of 4 top 50s, I wasn't saying all those should be in this. >>



I know your not, I was just giving you my opinion on who I feel should be part of the set.

Here's my list Hitters
Al Oliver
Andy Van Slyke
Barry Bonds
Bill Madlock
Bill Mazeroski HOF
Bill Virdon
Bob Skinner
Bobby Bonilla
Dave Parker
Donn Clendenon (Not sold on Clendenon) He only had 2 solid seasons with the Bucs 65&66
Jason Kendall
Manny Sanguillen
Richie Hebner
Roberto Clemente HOF
Willie Stargell HOF

The Pitchers
Bob Friend
Bob Veale
Bruce Kison
Dock Ellis
Doug Drabek
Jim Rooker
John Candelaria
John Smiley (on the fence only 6 years with the Pirates and only 60 wins with a 3.57 Era
Kent Tekulve
Rick Rhoden
Roy Face
Vern Law

alifaxwa2

Here are my first 3 in Red flips. The Maz I had for a while, the Face and Kiner, I just had converted from blue to Red. I have about 12 others in jsweiton's bulk sub.

BPorter26

Jeffrey sweet looking cards. I also have 10 Pirate cards on John's Sub. Can't wait for poppage!!

alifaxwa2

Here is the poppage from the bulk sub;