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Those of you who collect packs, I have a question.

HoneyBadgerHoneyBadger Posts: 152
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How many of you open them?

Another question: are you concerned that there still may be tons of this stuff out there so it's overvalued? I mean, I have A LOT of this stuff and never really thought it was all that rare.

Thanks and have a GREAT Friday! image

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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>......I have A LOT of this stuff........ >>



    No way you have this stuff. This stuff is SO rare. I heard about a guy having this stuff once, but I just figured he was lying. Congrats on having this stuff.
  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    What era are the packs you have from?

    Without question, the older the material, the more difficult it is to find. And with each subsequent pack that is opened, supply in turn drops. Unlike graded card population reports, which work inversely, the supply of those will always increase. So however you choose to define the scarcity of unopened material, the (true) supply is the highest now that it will ever be.
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  • HoneyBadgerHoneyBadger Posts: 152
    70's are my strike zone
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    How many of you open them? None. That is why I have so much. image

    Are you concerned that there still may be tons of this stuff out there so it's overvalued? For the stuff I mainly collect (pre-1980 packs), I don't think there is tons of stuff otherwise places like BBCE and Dave & Adams would have no problems finding it for the prices they are selling for now. And remember, a lot of the stuff on eBay just changes hands so it looks like more stuff than there actually is.

    Hope you have a great Friday too!!!

    Edited to add: I've got stuff too and I'm not sharing.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • HoneyBadgerHoneyBadger Posts: 152
    Cool, thanks Mike! Anyone else?
  • rtimmerrtimmer Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>70's are my strike zone >>



    I collect the 80's and some 70's cellos and racks and I do think some sales that I see are over valued and there are some items out there that I think are fairly undervalued. The supply of packs 60 years out I would think is mostly known or accounted for in the market. For example the '71 are relative scare and even if 4-5 cello cases hit the market at the same time I think the demand would be there to not affect prices on those.

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    1973 Goose Gossage showing
    1977 Bruce Sutter Showing
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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    I never open anything other than current years Heritage- and I save a box out of every case each year.
    I'm very wary of anything modern - '60 on up. Fritsch has a warehouse of this stuff, and if he ever decided to dump it the values would plummet, both on unopened and on cards and sets.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm very wary of anything modern - '60 on up. Fritsch has a warehouse of this stuff, and if he ever decided to dump it the values would plummet, both on unopened and on cards and sets. >>



    The problem is we don't know exactly what Fritsch has or doesn't have. So we are left to spectulate. When the father passed away, that is when we might have seen these packs flood the market. Since it didn't happen, we are left to assume that his son is carrying on his father's policy of not putting too much out into the market. But what years, quantities, and types of packs, we just don't know.

    It would be great to get into that warehouse though. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I open packs and collect packs I keep sealed. I have learned a lot about unopened product that way and enjoy sending pack fresh cards for gradi.g. I wouldn't call 70s unopened product necessarily rare at this point, but it's certainly not as plentiful as it was a decade ago. You just can't find rack boxes from that era that easily anymore.

    Edit to add: Fritsch probably has more than anyone in the warehouse but I believe it's less than what some think and certainly not from all years and issues like rack cases for example.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • bishopbishop Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭
    Not sure what Fritsch has or does not have but I know what Anthony has and it is like a trip down memory lane
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  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭
    How much stuff are we talking about?
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not sure what Fritsch has or does not have but I know what Anthony has and it is like a trip down memory lane >>



    So, do you think Anthony will let us in to his place to have a look around? image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One example that comes to mind about supply and demand is 1975 Topps mini baseball. When the Conlon estate sold off all those 75 mini cases several years back in one fell swoop through REA (Charlie Conlon was widely known as having the largest stash of unopened 75 mini product), most thought the mini market would take a severe hit. And though the prices for unopened 75 mini packs did drop initially, the values have now come all the way back to the point where a 75 mini wax box is more expensive than it was before the REA auctions.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How much stuff are we talking about? >>



    You know, big stuff, little stuff, all kinds of stuff.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you are a pack collector and you open all of your stuff, are you still considered a pack collector? image
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you are a pack collector and you open all of your stuff, are you still considered a pack collector? image >>



    I say yes until you rip it and then you are a rip pack collector. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If you are a pack collector and you open all of your stuff, are you still considered a pack collector? image >>



    I say yes until you rip it and then you are a rip pack collector. image >>



    That's me, LOL!

    I do keep the pre-1975 stuff sealed for the most part, though..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>How much stuff are we talking about? >>



    You know, big stuff, little stuff, all kinds of stuff. >>



    Kinda feels like we're in a Monty Python skit, right?

    wink, wink
  • miconelegacymiconelegacy Posts: 3,052 ✭


    << <i>Wish I had me some of this stuff!

    image >>



    Wow that's a heck of a picture!
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wish I had me some of this stuff!

    image >>



    Wow that's a heck of a picture! >>



    That photo is from the REA auction.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Wish I had me some of this stuff!

    image >>



    Wow that's a heck of a picture! >>



    That photo is from the REA auction. >>



    Are those from the Conlon collection?
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Wish I had me some of this stuff!

    image >>



    Wow that's a heck of a picture! >>



    That photo is from the REA auction. >>



    Are those from the Conlon collection? >>



    Yes, that was the photo.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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