1944 S Jefferson.......how will this reverse die crack affect the grade ? Updated new pics first pos

SUMORADA

I pulled a couple of these from a roll today.......grade opinions welcome.




3/2/12 Updated with pics of some of the other coins from the roll:

This first pic shows the route of the die cracks on the following pics of some of the other coins in the roll....

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georgiacop50

Minor die cracks in general will not affect grade. Nice steps.

Ahrensdad

It looks like there's a hit already on the steps, but even if not, wouldn't the disruption cause by the die break eliminate the possibility of a Full Step designation?

SamByrd

FS i would bet even with the crack. The coin may be more marketable with such a large crack as well. Very cool coin.

wvabe

Very nice, the crack adds charactor.

LindeDad

Could be image shadow but I'm not seeing that as a full steps coin. And with hits on the cheek and chin not high enouph grade to send in.

frnklnlvr

<< <i>It looks like there's a hit already on the steps, but even if not, wouldn't the disruption cause by the die break eliminate the possibility of a Full Step designation? >>



I'm not sure about Jeffersons but a die crack on the bell lines of a Franklin won't have an impact on FBL status.

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drei3ree

My picture grade would be MS65+ FS. NICE!

bolivarshagnasty

Based on pics, and minimum hits on jaw, I would grade solid 65FS with a shot at a 66FS. Nice Jeffs!!!

FredWeinberg

That Die Crack is fairly common
on numerous WarNickels, and
will not affect the grade whatsoever.

Can't tell if it goes thru the S mintmark;
if it does, some collectors call it the "$"

Lehigh96

It is hard to evaluate the luster on that coin from the photos provided. The green cast tells me that you have mixed light sources in your setup. The coin looks pretty clean and IMO, is premium gem level. The strike is outstanding for a 44-S and I don't think the die crack will preclude a full step designation. I grade the coin NGC MS66 5FS. PCGS could grade it MS66 FS but it is dependent upon the luster.

It bears mentioning that there is a common die crack on many of the 1944-S Jefferson's that extends from the S in PLURIBUS down through the right side of the dome, appears to cut the porch roof, and extends down the 4th pillar. Your coin exhibits a different but equally as significant die crack. I like it!

BigDowgie

I would agree with many above. Die crack will not impact grade. This is an above average 1944-S and should full step with either grading service. PCGS MS65FS with a shot at MS66FS.

WoodenJefferson

<< <i>That looks more like a lamination? >>



I agree that this is a lamination defect which will adversely effect the grade...as in Genuine only.

SUMORADA

I agree that this is a lamination defect which will adversely effect the grade...as in Genuine only.

As I said above this came from a roll....unless 30+ coins have the exact same lamination.....????....It is a die crack no doubt about it.

I will post some other pics when I get to the office tomorrow, there are others that show the die crack in an earliar state, all from the same roll.

SUMORADA

3/2/12.....

Additional photos added in first post........

lasvegasteddy

not sure die cracks effect any grade...
not sure how to grade just a reverse either but top coin overall...i'd give it 65/66 fs

MadMarty

I have one of those!!!!

FredWeinberg

It's not a lamination.

It's not a lamination.

georgiacop50

Oh! So it is a lamination then...

georgiacop50

Sorry, could not help myself!