Jordan Star XRC vs Jordan Fleer RC

MattyC

I need a Jordan in my collection; trying to pick one of these two. What is the deal on the Star cards? Why does PSA not slab them-- because there are so many fakes and they are tough to spot?

If anyone is learned on this Star card topic, please wise me up. Thanks.

Best,

Matt

digicat

PSA doesn't slab the Star cards because they can't tell the fakes from the real ones. BGS thinks they can though, which is why you'll find Star cards in BGS slabs.

StarPaxMan

<< <i>I need a Jordan in my collection; trying to pick one of these two. What is the deal on the Star cards? Why does PSA not slab them-- because there are so many fakes and they are tough to spot?

If anyone is learned on this Star card topic, please wise me up. Thanks.

Best,

Matt >>



Matty,
a dealer from Culver City purchased the Star co. in the early 90s same dealer that owned the Santa Monica card store, and the word was he printed more Jordan cards since he had the equipment and legal right to do so!
and here is the interesting part PSA used to set up at the famous Frank & sons show in the mid 90s they had thing were you could sub any card on wednesdays for $20 and pick it up the following wed, now this dealer
used to set up at that show and everybody knew he did produce more Jordan cards in fact his booth was almost across from PSAs i heard he attempted to sub some of his inventory and PSA refused to recognize his
company as legit!

MattyC

Thanks for that intel. I wonder if there's still a good card store here on the West Side, where was it in Santa Monica?

Does this mean having the Star 101 XRC bagged is the only way to be certain it's legit, or was the guy reproducing them in bags as well?

wallst32

The only known issue with the 83-86 Star Co basketball cards is somebody printed brand new sets (that weren't originally released in the 80's) in the 90's and claimed they were produced in the 80's. These newly printed cards were not replicas of the original sets, but again brand new sets with different colors and designs that were stamped with 1985 or 1986 even though they were printed many years later. This practice obivously tainted the company's reptuation. All the other rumors about whether they reprinted cards or not is purely speculation. If you collected and are familiar with the original issue, it's pretty easy to distinguish them from fakes.

rtimmer

Not sure if this pertains to your question, but if you ever intend to sell the card than I feel Fleer is the way to go. If you are specifically looking for an Xrc then I would look to the interlake card or the Jewel Prism card.

TonyC

<< <i>Thanks for that intel. I wonder if there's still a good card store here on the West Side, where was it in Santa Monica?

Does this mean having the Star 101 XRC bagged is the only way to be certain it's legit, or was the guy reproducing them in bags as well? >>



I've never actually had a "remake" bagged set in my presence, but Brian Drent from Mile High told me that the "new" bags are much thinner and flimsier than the "original" bags.

VegasBaby

<< <i>Not sure if this pertains to your question, but if you ever intend to sell the card than I feel Fleer is the way to go. If you are specifically looking for an Xrc then I would look to the interlake card or the Jewel Prism card. >>



I agree with this, go for the Fleer over the Star. It's the more well known card and there is a much bigger market for it if you ever had to sell. Plus, it's the most iconic card from probably the most iconic set in basketball history.

DWest

Just like the 89 UD Griffey rookie is to baseball, the Fleer Jordan is arguably THE iconic basketball card of the '80s with only the Bird/Magic rookie even giving it any competition.

eagles33

I think the 84 star slabbed by bgs is the way to go. I don't know enough about the cards to risk over 1000 on a raw one. Even a bgs 5.5 sells for over 1000. I agree that the fleer card is an iconic card but I prefer a card that was produced in the players rookie year if it exists. Plus the star cards are not exactly oddball sets. They used to be in the old Becketts which only listed mainstream sets. I don't think you can wrong with either.. Its just a matter of personal preference. I just got most of the key Star xrc cards slabbed by BGS. The only one I haven't picked up yet is the jordan due to the high price. I lucked out and got a gem mint 9.5 on the 83 Isiah thomas which I put on ebay to get me a little closer to being able to purchase a Jordan.