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T Roosevelt-Prince Heinrich 1902 medal

coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
Appears this medal is not considered a so-called Dollar and does not have an HK number

This issue was done commemorating Prince Heinrich's visit to the US in 1902- A bust of TR and Heinrich are feartured on one side with a ship on the other.

Any chance PCGS would grade this?

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I used to own one of those. THey were struck in Germany. SHould have the name of the Mint on the edge, IIRC.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, the only marking on the edge of these medals is "SILBER 0.990" (.990 fine silver).
    At 32mm in diamater, these are just a tad too small to be considered a traditional "so-called dollar".

    Most are impaired/handled/circulated/cleaned/damaged. High-grade originals can be proof-like, like this one (the fields are reflective below the toning):

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    Info from a prior eBay listing:

    Mint Date: 1902
    Medallist: Lauer (small "LAUER" on water at lower reverse below ship)
    Mint Place: Berlin (A)
    Reference: Rand 990, KM-. R!
    Denomination: Medallic Thaler - Visit of Prince Heinrich of Prussia to the USA and meeting with President Roosevelt
    Diameter: 32mm
    Material: Silver
    Edge: Smooth with "SILBER 0.990" imprint.
    Orientation: medal-turn
    Weight: 18.25 grams

    Obverse: Conjoined busts of President Roosevelt and Prince Heinrich left.
    Legend: PRÄSIDENT ROOSEVELT . PRINZ HEINRICH

    Reverse: The "SS Kronprinz Wilhelm" steam-powered sailship at sea. Medallist´s signature (LAUER) in below.
    Legend: Z. ERINNERg A.D. REISE NACH AMERIKA 1902 / LLOYD DAMPFER KRONPRINZ WILHELM
    Translated: "In remembrance of the visit to America 1902, Lloyd Steamship Crown Prince Wilhelm"

    SS Kronprinz Wilhelm was a German passenger liner built for the Norddeutscher Lloyd, a former shipping company now part of Hapag-Lloyd, by the AG Vulcan shipyard in Stettin, in 1901. She took her name from Crown Prince Wilhelm, son of the German Emperor Wilhelm II, and was a sister ship of the SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse. She had a varied career, starting off as a world-record-holding passenger liner, then becoming an auxiliary warship from 1914–1915 for the Imperial German Navy, sailing as a commerce raider for a year, and then interned in the United States when she ran out of supplies. When the U.S. entered World War I, she was seized and served as a United States Navy troop transport until she was decommissioned and turned over to the United States Shipping Board, where she remained in service until she was scrapped in 1923.

    Prinz Albert Wilhelm Heinrich von Preußen or Prince Henry of Prussia (born Albert Wilhelm Heinrich, 14 August 1862 – 20 April 1929) was a younger brother of German Emperor William II and a Prince of Prussia. A career naval officer, he held various commands in the Imperial German Navy and eventually rose to the rank of Grand Admiral.

    Born in Berlin, Prince Henry of Prussia was the third of eight children born to Crown Prince Frederick (later Emperor Frederick III), and Victoria, Princess Royal of the United Kingdom (later Empress Victoria and in widowhood Empress Frederick), eldest daughter of the British Queen Victoria. Henry was three years younger than his brother, the future Emperor William II (born 27 January 1859).

    After attending the gymnasium in Kassel, which he left in the middle grades in 1877, the 15-year-old Henry entered the Imperial Navy cadet program. His naval education included a two-year voyage around the world (1878 to 1880), the naval officer examination (Seeoffizierhauptprüfung) in October 1880, and attending the German naval academy (1884 to 1886).

    As an Imperial Prince, Henry quickly achieved command. In 1887, he commanded a torpedo boat and simultaneously the First Torpedo Boat Division; in 1888 the Imperial yacht SMY Hohenzollern; from 1889–1890 the second-class cruiser SMS Irene, the armored coastal defense ship SMS Beowulf, and the capital ships SMS Sachsen and SMS Wörth.

    From 1897, Prince Henry commanded several naval task forces; these included an improvised squadron that took part with the East Asia Squadron in consolidating and securing the German hold on the region of Kiaochow and the port of Tsingtao in 1898. The prince’s success was more of the diplomatic than the military variety; he became the first European potentate ever to be received at the Chinese imperial court. In 1899 he became officially the commander of the East Asia Squadron, later of a capital-ship squadron and in 1903 commander of the Baltic Sea naval station. From 1906 to 1909, Henry was commander of the High Seas Fleet. In 1909, he was promoted to Grand Admiral.

    At the beginning of World War I, Prince Henry was named Commander-in-Chief of the Baltic Fleet. Although the means provided him were far inferior to Russia’s Baltic Fleet, he succeeded, until the 1917 Revolution, in putting Russia’s naval forces far on the defensive, and hindered them from making attacks on the German coast. After the end of hostilities with Russia, his mission was ended, and Prince Henry simply left active duty. With the war’s end and the dissolution of the monarchy in Germany, Prince Henry left the Navy.
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    MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,054 ✭✭✭
    I like it!!! image

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