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NGC star designation question on PF70

timber100timber100 Posts: 863 ✭
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I am a little confused, which is normal for me, but the NGS web indicates 70 coins are not given a star grade as they are the best already as stated on their web site "As they are already of the ultimate grade, any coin graded MS 70 or PF 70 will not be eligible for the *"

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Looking at the heritage auctions for tonight I ran across this PF70 with a star.

heritage

What am I missing here?

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,419 ✭✭✭
    they learned a lesson and changed policy i'd bet as they may of caught some bashing about how something can be given a 70+
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dunno ???
    Timbuk3
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When NGC uses the star designation on proofs, it's almost always in relation to the cameo effect. So when you have a coin that is cameo on one side and not on the other, they'll just use the star. If it's ultra cameo on one side, but just cameo on the other, they'll call it cameo star. I don't see why using the designation in this way is inconsistent or wrong. Clearly a 70 Ultra Cameo is better than a 70 Cameo Star.

    Now if they used the star to mean superior eye appeal like they do with toners, then I could see how a 70 star would be seen as better than a regular 70 and how that wouldn't make sense since a 70 is perfection.

    The real problem seems to be that NGC uses the star to mean different things and that creates confusion.

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  • timber100timber100 Posts: 863 ✭
    Thanks illini420, now I noted it was cameo and not ultra
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭
    Probably cause the reverse is holding the coin from going ultra cameo, so NGC compensated the owner with a star in lieu of the ultra cameo designation.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    It makes sense to give some sort of recognition to exceptional cameo on some of these more difficult moderns. PCGS should do it too. --Jerry
  • JupitarCoinsJupitarCoins Posts: 2,595 ✭


    << <i>Probably cause the reverse is holding the coin from going ultra cameo, so NGC compensated the owner with a star in lieu of the ultra cameo designation. >>




    image

    Wonder what it will sell for.
    Positive:
    BST Transactions: DonnyJf, MrOrganic, Justanothercoinaddict, Fivecents, Slq, Jdimmick,
    Robb, Tee135, Ibzman350, Mercfan, Outhaul, Erickso1, Cugamongacoins, Indiananationals, Wayne Herndon

    Negative BST Transactions:
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yeah, it got a star because it's only a Cameo.
  • 2manycoins2manycoins Posts: 116
    Shouldn't a perfect coin have a star implied?
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm glad I only lost 2 minutes of my life on this one. image

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,102 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm glad I only lost 2 minutes of my life on this one. image >>

    me as well leo, thats about 1 minute to long for me image

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