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1914/3-S buffalo nickel photo of the date

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
Here is a microscopic photo of the date of a 1914/3-S nickel that I took using a "Tommy Tutor" microscope.
Sure does look like an overdate from the photo taken at 60x power. You can not only see the crossbar of the 3 atop the 4 but also the bottom of the 3 and then the crosstroke of the 3 in the middle towards left of center. I know all of these overdates are controversial, more or less, but just wanted to share this photo with the crowd.

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  • Overdate, barley looks like a date to start with. how about a picture of one in at least AU please
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish I had one but I do not. ( I mean wish I had a higher grade but this one will have to do ).
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Overdate, barley looks like a date to start with. how about a picture of one in at least AU please >>



    ...why stop there? why not ask for a minimum MS-65? image
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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting photo. Too bad the coin is so heavily worn, as this is one of the strongest "3's" I think I've seen on these possible over dates. Thanks for posting

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here is a microscopic photo of the date of a 1914/3-S nickel that I took using a "Tommy Tutor" microscope.
    Sure does look like an overdate from the photo taken at 60x power. You can not only see the crossbar of the 3 atop the 4 but also the bottom of the 3 and then the crosstroke of the 3 in the middle towards left of center. I know all of these overdates are controversial, more or less, but just wanted to share this photo with the crowd.

    image >>


    image

    My eyes are telling me to agree. Maybe they just want to see it.
    Lance.


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    << <i>Overdate, barley looks like a date to start with. how about a picture of one in at least AU please >>



    ...why stop there? why not ask for a minimum MS-65? image >>



    MS70 or it didn't happen! image
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin only grades a good-06 but the overdate feature is clearly visible.
    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • bob48bob48 Posts: 460 ✭✭✭
    I have never seen the over date coin before only pictures, But I can see what your are talking about in the pictures.
    Thanks
    Bob
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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    14/13-S[IMG]

    Here's an early die state high grade example of the 1914/13-S. I't not as prominent as the best Philly dies. ALL 1914/13 overdates are the product of an overdated working HUB (which produces a dozen or more working dies) so they are more common than the 1918-D 8/7 which comes from only a single working die. There's also a 1914/13-D known but it is not very impressive.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The picture I posted isn't very large but the crossbar of the "3" can be seen to the left of the "4."


  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Overdate, barley looks like a date to start with. how about a picture of one in at least AU please >>



    ...why stop there? why not ask for a minimum MS-65? image >>



    MS70 or it didn't happen! image >>



    Maybe not but I don't think a coin that is a thumb job away from a no date is the best example. If it was so clear why do all of the real experts (the people paid for their opinion) say it isn't?
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>14/13-S[IMG]

    Here's an early die state high grade example of the 1914/13-S. I't not as prominent as the best Philly dies. ALL 1914/13 overdates are the product of an overdated working HUB (which produces a dozen or more working dies) so they are more common than the 1918-D 8/7 which comes from only a single working die. There's also a 1914/13-D known but it is not very impressive. >>



    Honestly, none of them are very impressive
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As always, beauty (or lack thereof) is in the eyes of the beholder.
    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>14/13-S[IMG]

    Here's an early die state high grade example of the 1914/13-S. I't not as prominent as the best Philly dies. ALL 1914/13 overdates are the product of an overdated working HUB (which produces a dozen or more working dies) so they are more common than the 1918-D 8/7 which comes from only a single working die. There's also a 1914/13-D known but it is not very impressive. >>



    Honestly, none of them are very impressive >>



    A couple of the Philly Mint dies (#1,2, & 6) have a VERY discernible underdidgit on the early to mid die states. Most of the other dies are not as clear.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Here is a microscopic photo of the date of a 1914/3-S nickel that I took using a "Tommy Tutor" microscope.
    Sure does look like an overdate from the photo taken at 60x power. You can not only see the crossbar of the 3 atop the 4 but also the bottom of the 3 and then the crosstroke of the 3 in the middle towards left of center. I know all of these overdates are controversial, more or less, but just wanted to share this photo with the crowd.

    image >>


    image

    My eyes are telling me to agree. Maybe they just want to see it.
    Lance. >>



    Riddle me this: Why does the 'bottom of the 3' extend way below the 1 in 14 when on a regular 1913 its even with the one?
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Here is a microscopic photo of the date of a 1914/3-S nickel that I took using a "Tommy Tutor" microscope.
    Sure does look like an overdate from the photo taken at 60x power. You can not only see the crossbar of the 3 atop the 4 but also the bottom of the 3 and then the crosstroke of the 3 in the middle towards left of center. I know all of these overdates are controversial, more or less, but just wanted to share this photo with the crowd.

    image >>


    image

    My eyes are telling me to agree. Maybe they just want to see it.
    Lance. >>



    Riddle me this: Why does the 'bottom of the 3' extend way below the 1 in 14 when on a regular 1913 its even with the one? >>



    The underdigit on the first hubbing wasn't very strong-the "3" was only partially hubbed up (not an unusual situation for an initial hubbing-see the incomplete primary hubbing on the date of the 1916/16 5c.) There was a concerted effort to efface that underdigit on each affected working die (the effacement lines can still be clearly seen on most of the nine known dies) so, considering these two occurrences it's not too surprising the "3" looks a little different than a "normal" 3.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry, but i dont buy that story. One cannot efface an underdigit on a working die. It doesnt work that way. And making excuses for why the number is distorted doesnt help with the fact that its not in the proper place.
  • Doesn't look like it to me 4/3 ..Looks just like the date is so worn down and damaged
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't buy the 14/3 story in this example, unless it was run over by a steamroller.
  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    Does Anacs or NGC attribute die#1? Any good pics of die#1? Any values posted for die#1 in VG?


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    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    Here's an image of what I think is a 14/3 but I could be wrong but I don't think I am & this is not a very good image....Joe
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where's the beef???

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