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1913 Type One Buffalo I just picked up. (Clashed Dies?)

braddickbraddick Posts: 24,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
This one arrived today:
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In examining the reverse I noticed what appears to be evidence of clashed dies right below the 'unum' but am looking for members here to venture and opinion. It looks like that word is underlined. (I checked a bunch of photos on eBay, looking for the same thing and didn't come across any other coin with these similarities.)
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, it's a very common clashed die.

    Occurs on numerous Buffalo Nickel dates.....

    Some will show Clashing marks under the
    Indian's chin on the obverse; some are
    very strong, depending on the date.
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is my example on a 13 Type 1 with the same clashing Pat
    The whisker chin
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Odd. Usually you can relate the clash marks.

    Assuming the dies were reasonably aligned (as it appears from the OP's photos), Indian's chin would sit squarely on top of UNUM. I can't see anything on the obverse that would cause those clash marks, particularly a horizontal line.

    What am I missing?

    Maybe I'll photoshop a clashed type 1 and post it.

    Nice old NGC no-line fatty!
    Lance.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Odd. Usually you can relate the clash marks.

    Assuming the dies were reasonably aligned (as it appears from the OP's photos), Indian's chin would sit squarely on top of UNUM. I can't see anything on the obverse that would cause those clash marks, particularly a horizontal line.

    What am I missing?

    Maybe I'll photoshop a clashed type 1 and post it.

    Nice old NGC no-line fatty!
    Lance. >>



    Upside down, backwards AND reversed Lance
    The Indians shoulder clashes with EPU

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Odd. Usually you can relate the clash marks.

    Assuming the dies were reasonably aligned (as it appears from the OP's photos), Indian's chin would sit squarely on top of UNUM. I can't see anything on the obverse that would cause those clash marks, particularly a horizontal line.

    What am I missing?

    Maybe I'll photoshop a clashed type 1 and post it.

    Nice old NGC no-line fatty!
    Lance. >>



    Upside down, backwards AND reversed Lance
    The Indians shoulder clashes with EPU >>

    Ah...silly me. Thanks, John.

    That's a gorgeous Buffalo, BTW.
    Lance.
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    Some will show Clashing marks under the
    Indian's chin on the obverse

    I bought one of those at a flea market years ago.
    A 1915...D..I think
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought it was something along these lines.
    I remember a few years ago at Long Beach Greg M showed me a 1937 or 1938 Buffalo that had a couple of letters below the Indian's chin- it was clashed so hard. He was dropping it off at NGC and David Lange talked him out of
    doing so as it was lightly circulated and not rare as such.
    Neat coin though.

    peacockcoins

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