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Dangerous Bar Copper Counterfeit on eBay

Hey folks:

While I've seen plenty of Chinese-style counterfeits of various colonial issues -- Fugios, Continental dollars, even Georgius Triumpho -- usually they're pretty laughable. There are two Bar copper right now that actually look pretty dangerous. Here is a link to one: Counterfeit Bar Copper

The same seller has another fake Bar copper listed, from the same dies, and a counterfeit Continental dollar. Looking at his feedback, it doesn't look like he's ever sold a real coin

If anyone more web-savvy than me can save the larger sized pictures, I'd like to add them to my counterfeit file.

Incidentally, I've never seen a genuine misstruck Bar copper.

Be very careful with Bar coppers. The die diagnostics are easy to see but difficult to duplicate -- a spur on bar 12 is the easiest one to locate, even in poor quality pictures.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is what's on his auction pages, John. Only one set of images is larger. You should be able to right click and save them.

    I know nothing about these so I haven't reported his auctions. Doesn't look like he's drawing a crowd.
    Lance.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like one of those intentional products that the Gallery Mint used to make. When you hit "Enlarge" the image doesn't get any larger, but it allows you to save it if you right click and choose from the dropdown menu "Save Picture As".
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • PistareenPistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    Perfect! That's what I needed. I couldn't right click and when I went burrowing through the source code, I couldn't find the images of the reverses. Thanks.

    All three of the above coins are modern fakes, incidentally.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,477 ✭✭✭✭✭

    oops

    never mind
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scary
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone in an error coin forum I frequent just posted a link to this auction for a misstruck 1792 Science & Industry cent and before I even clicked I knew it would be from the same seller. I'm going to point them to this thread and try to save someone else some cash.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • There has been an Ebay seller from Alabama selling colonial copies and oddball "errors" like these for years, always described optimistically.

    Looks like the same dude now with a new handle.
  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭

    Someone paid $120 for that odd Bar Copper. Ugh.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For whatever it is worth - I believe I have witnessed a new policy forthcoming from eBay. It appears from a single event I was involved in reporting recently: In the case where a counterfeit item listing is reported to eBay and Ebay agrees with the report by cancelling the listing, they are cancelling all coin auctions by the same seller, apparently as a punitive measure for failure to disclose the counterfeit in that listing. My observation may be incorrect, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes to that soon enough.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

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