Fake U.S. Treasury Bond scam strikes again

CaptHenway · February 17, 2012 12:47AM

link

The price of poker has gone up.

derryb · February 17, 2012 12:58AM

Much more detail here

and here

Notice the FED Reserve crates the "counterfeit" bonds were stored in (and more than likely issued in). There's also a diversionary claim that the bonds are the work of Italian Mafia and were to be used for terrorists activity. I don't expect the owners of these bonds (the asian Dragon Family) are going to take this without a violent fight. The FED has basically, after many years of searching, found the bonds they issued for asian gold and are now making sure they don't have to honor them. Strange how the issuer of a bond is able to call it a counterfeit and erase all debt. Fallout from this, while clandestine, will be severe. Next step is for HS to "identify" an asian terrorist organization to justify beating them to the retalitory punch.

Think about it, why would a counterfeiter create a fake $1 billion bond knowing that it would be thoroughly scrutinized before paying it out?

johnny9434 · February 17, 2012 1:28AM

amazing stuff

revoldlog · February 17, 2012 1:49AM

It will be a good story for an Storage War Episode

CaptHenway · February 17, 2012 1:49AM

<< Much more detail here

and here

Notice the FED Reserve crates the "counterfeit" bonds were stored in (and more than likely issued in). There's also a diversionary claim that the bonds are the work of Italian Mafia and were to be used for terrorists activity. I don't expect the owners of these bonds (the asian Dragon Family) are going to take this without a violent fight. The FED has basically, after many years of searching, found the bonds they issued for asian gold and are now making sure they don't have to honor them. Strange how the issuer of a bond is able to call it a counterfeit and erase all debt. Fallout from this, while clandestine, will be severe. Next step is for HS to "identify" an asian terrorist organization to justify beating them to the retalitory punch.

Think about it, why would a counterfeiter create a fake $1 billion bond knowing that it would be thoroughly scrutinized before paying it out? >>

Ha ha! Excellent satire!

MsMorrisine · February 18, 2012 4:53AM

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/17/2012 11:06 -0500

why someone would go the extra effort to also create a "fake" compartment in which to store it. In this case a compartment that is property of the "CHICAGO FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM." Perhaps Fed uberdove and Chicago Fed President Charles Evans will be kind enough to explain why Versailles Treaty Chicago Fed crates are floating around in Europe (and filled with $6 trillion in supposedly fake bearer bonds)?

I think we have found the person who will buy our fake bonds!

derryb · February 18, 2012 5:01AM

aren't all Treasury bonds fake?

Barndog · February 18, 2012 5:06AM

<< aren't all Treasury bonds fake? >>

because it is true!

"Here's a piece of paper with a number on it. In a few years, we will give you some other pieces of paper with numbers on them"

What a deal!

RGJohn · February 18, 2012 5:27AM

<< aren't all Treasury bonds fake? >>

Certainly not sir.
They are always convertible at par for tulip bulbs.

1jester · February 18, 2012 8:31AM

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MsMorrisine · February 18, 2012 10:27AM

<< ?!?! >>

my point exactly!

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If only America hadn't sold out to the damned Hilton hotels in Indonesia and Geneva!

One day, I shall reclaim my wife's legacy of 4 quadrillion dollars, herein (dollars of the united states), by taking uncut bearer bonds for the Hilton Geneva's reclaim via Italy with the interest to be paid.

CaptHenway · February 18, 2012 9:43PM

<< Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/17/2012 11:06 -0500

why someone would go the extra effort to also create a "fake" compartment in which to store it. In this case a compartment that is property of the "CHICAGO FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM." Perhaps Fed uberdove and Chicago Fed President Charles Evans will be kind enough to explain why Versailles Treaty Chicago Fed crates are floating around in Europe (and filled with $6 trillion in supposedly fake bearer bonds)?

I think we have found the person who will buy our fake bonds! >>

And the most amazing thing about that "1934 Chicago Federal Reserve System crate" is that it has a 50-star flag on it, not adopted until 1959!!!!!

roadrunner · February 18, 2012 11:27PM

Some slight issues come to mind with these trillions of bonds issued in the 1920's and 1930's. If it took 7 battleships to bring the gold and silver to the US, how did
it get taken away from the World Trade Center Towers w/o no one noticing? If indeed tens of $Trillions of these bonds existed 80 yrs ago to cover the PMs turned in,
it would suggest the above ground gold is about 50X more abundant than currently believed. In that case, gold's value could fall apart at any time. Then why are we
bullish long term? Finding crates of $TRILLIONS of old US gold bonds and TBonds is not good for the US dollar. It's also not good for gold either....assuming the story is true.

I can't even find a flag on that Chicago FED crate, let alone count 50 stars.

CaptHenway · February 18, 2012 11:37PM

<< 

I can't even find a flag on that Chicago FED crate, let alone count 50 stars. >>

Look at derryb's "and here" link.
Look at the fourth and fifth pictures, to the left, above SERIES 1934.
Look at how the lines of stars are staggered, as on a 50-star flag.
Look at a 48-star flag. It has six rows of eight stars each, one above the other.
This is a 50-star flag. Did not exist in 1934.
Complete and total booshwah!

roadrunner · February 18, 2012 11:50PM

Thanks for the redirect CaptHenway. Hmmmm, I don't count 48, or even 50 stars....but 52.

..........this flag doesn't even exist in 2012.

Some of the tin foil hat analyis suggested the bonds themselves were made intentionally with glaring errors......so why not the strong box as well? Who would have ever
thought of putting a 52 star flag on a fake box today? Where one would find such a bogus pattern to copy...except possibly at the Chicago Fed. At least they got the number
of stripes correct however they aren't positioned properly with respect to the star quadrant. Looks like additional fuel for the Zero Hedge crowd.

roadrunner

1jester · February 19, 2012 3:49AM

I've read many times of currency boxes (and gold, and jewels) mixed in with some mysterious international intrigue.... could this story be related?. There does seem to be a lot amiss that the normal person is not supposed to know about. I can't find a link to a very interesting article listing some of the known or rumored (but not located) stashes of gold in the world, which puts into serious question the "official" known holdings of gold in the world, but I did find this article that mentions one such stash that existed at one time but is unaccounted for in today's "official" statistics.

MsMorrisine · February 19, 2012 12:51PM

<< I've read many times of currency boxes (and gold, and jewels) mixed in with some mysterious international intrigue.... could this story be related?. There does seem to be a lot amiss that the normal person is not supposed to know about. I can't find a link to a very interesting article listing some of the known or rumored (but not located) stashes of gold in the world, which puts into serious question the "official" known holdings of gold in the world, but I did find this article that mentions one such stash that existed at one time but is unaccounted for in today's "official" statistics. >>

what other sites do you read?

1jester · February 19, 2012 2:44PM

<< 

<< I've read many times of currency boxes (and gold, and jewels) mixed in with some mysterious international intrigue.... could this story be related?. There does seem to be a lot amiss that the normal person is not supposed to know about. I can't find a link to a very interesting article listing some of the known or rumored (but not located) stashes of gold in the world, which puts into serious question the "official" known holdings of gold in the world, but I did find this article that mentions one such stash that existed at one time but is unaccounted for in today's "official" statistics. >>

what other sites do you read? >>

I'm looking for more information. What's the purpose of your comment (besides the pathetic and obvious ad hominem slight)?

MsMorrisine · February 20, 2012 3:47AM

I wasn't sure if you relied on them as reliable or not.

1jester · February 20, 2012 6:08AM

How am I supposed to know? I gather information and sift it. A lot of it is utter hogwash, no doubt. There are lots of interests in the world, and many of them try to steer our thinking, some with propaganda, others with outright lies. How is one to know where the truth lies?

I googled both those links. I never read Rense so I don't know about him. Story's stories always seemed way out there, but probably because he had so much information we never hear through normal sources. I do not believe that man was lying about a thing he said. I just can't put everything together myself because I am so ignorant about what is going on in the world. I think a lot of these far-fetched stories might be true, but I don't know. I'm still learning, and hopefully will until I keel over.

bob48 · February 20, 2012 9:02AM

Very Interesting and good research.
I will keep watching this.
Bob

MsMorrisine · February 20, 2012 9:47AM

Well, what these guys are all trying to do is turn "urban legend" into "monetary reality."

these bond things are forgeries with half-truth stroies behind them with enough of a flavor to make them seem plausible to some.

I could have similar items made up on my pc in no time. I could then claim the government is seizing them because they do not want to pay on the debt. Seems real, looks good, but all fake.

watch the USA show "Bait Car" and listen to the stories the captured stolen car criminals say. They all sound so good, so sincere, but they are all lies.

First sign that this particular story is not real: we did not need 6 trillion of debt back then. We are spending over $1 trillion a year on our current war. What would $6 trillion buy back then? more than 10 US Naval fleets and armies??? Not realistic! We would have no need to issue that much debt back then.

derryb · February 20, 2012 10:18AM

<< these bond things are forgeries with half-truth stroies behind them with enough of a flavor to make them seem plausible to some. >>

and how do you know this to be "fact?" The internet? My point is the only truth we know is what we see with our own eyes. Everything else is based on faith in what someone else tells us.

morgansforever · February 20, 2012 10:26AM

Interesting, but it's the web. Maybe the FED faked the bonds with obvious faults.

derryb · February 20, 2012 10:32AM

<< Interesting, but it's the web. Maybe the FED faked the bonds with obvious faults. >>

would be one way to avoid ever having to honor them.

MsMorrisine · February 20, 2012 11:03AM

<< 

<< Interesting, but it's the web. Maybe the FED faked the bonds with obvious faults. >>

would be one way to avoid ever having to honor them. >>

Would you like to buy some?

How Can I Be So Sure?" "The Internet?"

No and Yes

I've been reading cr@p off the Internet written to scam people long enough to know what contrived bullsh*t reads like.

If you want to believe the "I was just moving the bait car to a safe area" stories.... feel free. I vote for arrest and conviction.

Fake U.S. Treasury Bond scam strikes again

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