The numismatist in me would find it a real tug of war, though, because I would simultaneously want to sell it all and improve my lifestyle but also want to keep them.
The only thing that would rain down on me would be bat cra$p.
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<< <i>I think it is cool that the workers got half and split the rest with the owner of the building. Wouldn't shake out like that in the US >>
In the US, if a treasure hoard is found on a property where the finder is not the original owner of the hoard then the treasure goes to the lawsuit's winning lawyers.
Wouldn't mind a bit of cherry picking there. Can help but think there may have been a female in the mix to cause that many $20 gold pieces to be stashed in France at that time....Just an opinion....
No attempt made to contact the previous owner's heirs, it seems. (Contrast this situation with that of famous European artists whose heirs get a "cut" every time their great-great-grandfather's products are sold.) Property isn't property; it's finders-keepers losers-weepers.
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<< <i>111 stacks. I wonder which years/MMs are missing.
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You are assuming each stack is a particular year/mint. Those stacks might just have been done for this pic. Maybe there are a majority of New Orleans mint coins there. Might be a reason so few are found on this side of the pond. Imagine 350 of them are coins like the 1854-O, 1856-O and the 1859-O.
<< <i>I think it is cool that the workers got half and split the rest with the owner of the building. Wouldn't shake out like that in the US >>
You are probably right. In the US, the FBI would probably seize them and after 20 years in the courts and paying lawyers half of the value in fees the IRS would take half of the remaining value leaving the owner and workers enough to buy a case of beer.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
However, in all seriousness, if the former owner of that building was either killed in the war or dragged off to a concentration camp, this story might not actually be over yet (and finder's keepers would likely be largely moot)!
<< <i>However, in all seriousness, if the former owner of that building was either killed in the war or dragged off to a concentration camp, this story might not actually be over yet (and finder's keepers would likely be largely moot)! >>
This is why so many good treasure stories never get reported.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
...or alternatively, a U.S. GI knew what he liked (kinda like us around here if we walked into a blasted building and there just happened to be some shiny stuff on the floor), started collecting some stuff he "found" and didn't get a chance to take "his" horde home!
<< <i>...or alternatively, a U.S. GI knew what he liked (kinda like us around here if we walked into a blasted building and there just happened to be some shiny stuff on the floor), started collecting some stuff he "found" and didn't get a chance to take "his" horde home! >>
O.K., I didn't want to go OT replying to some early posts but RichR's comment prompts me to say that it is (his post) the exact story line of the documentary movie "Blood From a Stone", one of the most moving, powerful documentaries I've ever seen.
There should be a law that says that any lost treasure found should be split between the state and the finder and any claimants should just duke it out for the states portion unless it can be shown it is criminal money.
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<< <i>Wish I could make a find like that!! >>
Huh. Don't we all.
The numismatist in me would find it a real tug of war, though, because I would simultaneously want to sell it all and improve my lifestyle but also want to keep them.
I find it amusing that the linked news article reporting on the story describes the coins as "Ancient", being made between 1851 and 1928
I guess it is all one's perspective on things however. My kids think I am Ancient
<< <i>Great! I cannot afford all of these surprisingly-new-to-the-market gold coin hoards.
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Yep.......blows all the population and condition and or rarities to hell
After thought.......they might melt them
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That $980,000 value in the article is for melt not to mention any collector values of the hoard!
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be trying my darnedest right about now to find the exact years of each piece.
<< <i>I think it is cool that the workers got half and split the rest with the owner of the building. Wouldn't shake out like that in the US >>
In the US, if a treasure hoard is found on a property where the finder is not the original owner of the hoard then the treasure goes to the lawsuit's winning lawyers.
How a similar find when down in the states...
<< <i>Ya gotta be kidding me. Wow. How do you leave something like that behind? >>
WWII I would guess.
<< <i>Ya gotta be kidding me. Wow. How do you leave something like that behind? >>
There are many ways but the most popular is to die without telling anyone.
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<< <i>I think it is cool that the workers got half and split the rest with the owner of the building. Wouldn't shake out like that in the US >>
True. Property rights in most other countries aren't as well protected as they are here.
<< <i>Dang! These old coins just keep coming out of the woodwork, don't they?
<< <i>Ya gotta be kidding me. Wow. How do you leave something like that behind? >>
There are many ways but the most popular is to die without telling anyone. >>
Lots of wealth was left behind by European Jews who were forced to leave their homes during World War II and never returned.
<< <i>I think it is cool that the workers got half and split the rest with the owner of the building. >>
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<< <i>I think it is cool that the workers got half and split the rest with the owner of the building. Wouldn't shake out like that in the US >>
True. Property rights in most other countries aren't as well protected as they are here. >>
Now if we could only figure out how to keep more in the clients hands and a little less in the lawyers.
rough guess the gold value is $850,000 ....they say $950,000
but if those grade they could be well over a million....maybe 2.
<< <i>Linky
Wish I could make a find like that!!
-Paul >>
I click on the link and it opens to a Google sign in page....???????
-Paul
<< <i>Ya gotta be kidding me. Wow. How do you leave something like that behind? >>
You die unexpectedly with out ever letting any one in on the location of your stash.
Lots of treasure still out there waiting to found. Newly abandoned stashes are created every day.
Rainin' gold (there's a pun there somewhere)
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<< <i>Linky
Wish I could make a find like that!!
-Paul >>
I click on the link and it opens to a Google sign in page....??????? >>
Yeah, it did that to me too....I refuse.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
(Just think of city streets clogged with a hundred thousand horses each generating 15 lbs of manure every day...)
I wonder which years/MMs are missing.
<< <i>111 stacks.
I wonder which years/MMs are missing.
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You are assuming each stack is a particular year/mint.
Those stacks might just have been done for this pic.
Maybe there are a majority of New Orleans mint coins there. Might be a reason so few are found on this side of the pond.
Imagine 350 of them are coins like the 1854-O, 1856-O and the 1859-O.
<< <i>You are assuming each stack is a particular year/mint >>
No I'm not.
Just wondering aloud.
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<< <i>I think it is cool that the workers got half and split the rest with the owner of the building. Wouldn't shake out like that in the US >>
You are probably right. In the US, the FBI would probably seize them and after 20 years in the courts and paying lawyers half of the value in fees the IRS would take half of the remaining value leaving the owner and workers enough to buy a case of beer.
<< <i>However, in all seriousness, if the former owner of that building was either killed in the war or dragged off to a concentration camp, this story might not actually be over yet (and finder's keepers would likely be largely moot)! >>
This is why so many good treasure stories never get reported.
<< <i>...or alternatively, a U.S. GI knew what he liked (kinda like us around here if we walked into a blasted building and there just happened to be some shiny stuff on the floor), started collecting some stuff he "found" and didn't get a chance to take "his" horde home! >>
O.K., I didn't want to go OT replying to some early posts but RichR's comment prompts me to say that it is (his post) the exact story line of the documentary movie "Blood From a Stone", one of the most moving, powerful documentaries I've ever seen.