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  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Eddie Gaedel holds the record for most consecutive at-bats for a midget (1)
    That one's safe


  • << <i>Of Stan Musial's 3630 career hits, exactly 1815 came at home and 1815 on the road! >>



    Wow. The amazing Stan.
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    NEW: Unanimous HOF election (BBWAA vote only!) - I thought for sure that Nolan Ryan and especially Cal Ripken Jr would be the first player to be elected unanimously into the HOF (by the BBWAA) but they came up five and eight votes short respectively. Seriously, if they (or even Willie Mays!) can't get in unanimously, I don't think anybody will.
    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Carlos Bierga hitting a homerun from both sides of the plate in the same inning back around 1995. it was the first time it had ever been done and may well never be done again.
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    Jose Canseco bouncing a ball off his head and into the stands for a homerun....has this ever been duplicated??? I think not!!


  • << <i>Carlos Bierga hitting a homerun from both sides of the plate in the same inning back around 1995. it was the first time it had ever been done and may well never be done again. >>



    Mark Bellhorn also did that. image
  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    That Al Kaline was thr youngest ever Batting Champion at age 20 in 1955.

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  • PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    Robby Thompson was caught stealing four times in the same game back in 1986. That one's going to be tough to break.
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    Octavio Dotel has played for 13 major league clubs.
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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lou Pinella was thrown out for "the cycle" in one game. Four times caught...............once at each base!

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  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    Ichiro's 262 hits in a season or his 10 straight years of 200+
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,949 ✭✭✭✭
    Here are some interesting records of HOFers that are not so proud records:

    Bases on Balls Leader = Nolan Ryan (2795) Nobody active is even halfway there... Untouchable due to sheer longevity
    Strikeout Leader = Reggie Jackson (2597) Thome is 100 away, but likely won't reach Reggie
    Caught Stealing Leader = Rickey Henderson (335) Juan Pierre is at 192 after 13 seasons, likely won't catch Rickey
    Grounding into Double Plays Leader = Cal Ripken Jr. (350) Pudge Rodriguez was at 338, but retired before he could surpass Ripken
  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    Your boy Cal should've hustled up the line more!
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,949 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Your boy Cal should've hustled up the line more! >>



    At least he has some nice company! image

    GIDP Top Ten:

    1.) Cal Ripken Jr. = 350
    2.) Ivan Rodriguez = 338
    3.) Hank Aaron = 328
    4.) Carl Yastrzemski = 323
    5.) Dave Winfield = 319
    6.) Eddie Murray = 316
    7.) Jim Rice = 315
    8.) Julio Franco = 312
    9.) Harold Baines = 298
    10.) Brooks Robinson = 297
  • jimradjimrad Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭


    << <i> how about Cal Ripken, Jr being the only player to get an All-Star Game MVP in two different decades (1991, 2001)? >>



    Not only 2 different decades, but 2 different centuries
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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    NEW: Same team having four consecutive Rookie of the Years - The Los Angeles Dodgers have had not once, but twice had at least four consecutive Rookie of the Years. The first time was in 1979-82 with Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Howe, Fernando Valenzuela, and Steve Sax. But not to be outdone, the Dodgers decided to do one better with five consecutive Rookies of the Year for 1992-96: Eric Karros, Mike Piazza, Raul Mondesi, Hideo Nomo, and Todd Hollandsworth (good luck fitting that on the back of the jersey!). Seriously, I don't think any other team has even had three straight ROY's, must less four or five.
    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    How about this one, Bob Welch in 1990 was the last 25 game winner, and that already was over 22 years ago. Again, you figure an average five man rotation, that gives a starter about 32 starts a season, so you can only have up to seven losses/no decisions. Again not much of a margin of error.
    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    NEW: Frank Thomas' SEVEN straight seasons of .300 BA/100 H's/100 R's/100 RBI's/290 TB's/20 HR's/100 BB's - Frank Thomas sure put the Big Hurt on consistency! In EVERY season from 1991-97, Big Frank had at least .308 BA, 141 H's, 102 R's, 101 RBI's, 291 TB's, 24 taters, and 109 BB's. No wonder he was on the top of the charts of the Beckett Hot List for 34 straight months!
    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭
    Here's some " Old" but still standing records that have a real good chance of staying standing . These are courtesy of Retrosheet.org .

    1)-- In 1923 Harry Heilmann had a .569 batting average against the Senators .

    2)-- In 1921 Tris Speaker hit 42 doubles at home .

    3)-- In 1922 Ray Grimes drove in runs in 17 straight games that he played in ( not consecutive team games ) .

    4)-- In 1923 Heine Manush was HBP 12 times by the RedSox piching staff.

    5)-- In 1923 Cotton Tierney , who played 150 games for 2 teams , played 92 games on the road and 58 at home .

    There are many , many more odd ball stats , if one takes the time to dig them out .

    Enjoy----- Sonny
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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    Vlad Guerrero and Lou Gehrig only two players with 25+ Hrs and .300+ avg for 11 straight seasons.
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, there are tons of records that will never be broken.

    I want to say Ernie Banks went 4-4 in a game while the rest of the entire team was no-hit.

    Babe Ruth argued Balls and Strikes, got ejected, and the relief pitcher came in with 1 out in the first inning and pitched something like 19 innings in straight relief.

    No-one has ever hit for the Homerun cycle. 1) solo homer, 2) 2-run homer, 3) 3-run homer, and 4) Grand Slam.

    2 unassisted triple plays by the same player in 1 game, season, or career for that matter. Maybe 1 guy did it twice, I don't remember.

    Only a couple of Guys have made all 3 outs in 1 inning. Hasn't been done in a long time.

    Has there ever been a day in the Major leagues where there was a "Shutout" for every game played that day?

    Lots of neat things to think about. That is why Baseball is the best sport ever!!!!!

    Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭
    Here are a few more oddball stats

    1)--- Most strikeouts between Hits --- Nolan Ryan ( 27 ) July 15 , 1973 to July 19 , 1973

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    2 ) --- Most Hits between Strikeouts ---- Rick Langford ( 40 ) --- in 18-1/3 innings , May 4th 1983 to September 9th 1984

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    3 ) -- Most Strikeouts between Walks --- Curt Shilling ( 56 ) --- in 44 innings , May 13th 2002 to June 8th 2002

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    4 ) -- Most Walks between Strikeouts --- Mike Chris ( 20 ) --- in 11-2/3 innings , May 19th 1982 to Sept 4th 1982

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    5 ) -- Most Hits between Walks --- Bill Fischer ( 100 ) --- in 84-1/3 , August 3rd 1962 to September 30th 1962

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    6 ) -- Most Walks between Hits --- Dave Morehead ( 15 ) --- 8-1/3 , September 2nd 1964 to September 30th ( 2 ) 1964


    Enjoy ----- Sonny
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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    No-one has ever hit for the Homerun cycle. 1) solo homer, 2) 2-run homer, 3) 3-run homer, and 4) Grand Slam. >>



    Anyone come close? Considering though there's only been about 15-20 or so guys who hit four taters in a game (it seems to be roughly the same number of perfect games for pitchers, give or take), hitting for the home run cycle would really be something. Coincidentally, the number of no-hitters and number of regular cycles isn't much different either.
    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    NEW: Minnie Minoso playing in MLB in five different decades, professionally in seven - Minnie Minoso stands alone as the only player in modern MLB history (since 1901) to play in five different decades. More specifically, he played in 1949, 1951-64, 1976, 1980. Add to that him playing in the minor independent Northern League in 1993 and 2003 and that makes an additional two decades he's played professionally. The only other player to play MLB in five different decades was Nick Altrock (1898, 1902-09, 1912-19, 1924, 1931, 1933).
    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NEW: Frank Thomas' SEVEN straight seasons of .300 BA/100 H's/100 R's/100 RBI's/290 TB's/20 HR's/100 BB's - Frank Thomas sure put the Big Hurt on consistency! In EVERY season from 1991-97, Big Frank had at least .308 BA, 141 H's, 102 R's, 101 RBI's, 291 TB's, 24 taters, and 109 BB's. No wonder he was on the top of the charts of the Beckett Hot List for 34 straight months! >>


    Not a knock on you but, like Bill James, I find these types of "records" to be pretty stupid. If you change just one thing in that batch of stats - TBs to just 292 - it all falls apart. All this is is a selection of good, but not always great, stats from a consistent player in the peak of his career, uniquely combined in a way that means nothing.
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NEW: Same team having four consecutive Rookie of the Years - The Los Angeles Dodgers have had not once, but twice had at least four consecutive Rookie of the Years. The first time was in 1979-82 with Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Howe, Fernando Valenzuela, and Steve Sax. But not to be outdone, the Dodgers decided to do one better with five consecutive Rookies of the Year for 1992-96: Eric Karros, Mike Piazza, Raul Mondesi, Hideo Nomo, and Todd Hollandsworth (good luck fitting that on the back of the jersey!). Seriously, I don't think any other team has even had three straight ROY's, must less four or five. >>


    Oakland had three straight from 1986-88 - Canseco, McGwire, and Walt Weiss.
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>NEW: Frank Thomas' SEVEN straight seasons of .300 BA/100 H's/100 R's/100 RBI's/290 TB's/20 HR's/100 BB's - Frank Thomas sure put the Big Hurt on consistency! In EVERY season from 1991-97, Big Frank had at least .308 BA, 141 H's, 102 R's, 101 RBI's, 291 TB's, 24 taters, and 109 BB's. No wonder he was on the top of the charts of the Beckett Hot List for 34 straight months! >>


    Not a knock on you but, like Bill James, I find these types of "records" to be pretty stupid. If you change just one thing in that batch of stats - TBs to just 292 - it all falls apart. All this is is a selection of good, but not always great, stats from a consistent player in the peak of his career, uniquely combined in a way that means nothing. >>



    It means nothing to you that no one else, not Ruth, Williams, Mays, Mantle, no one has even come close to doing all this?

    And I guess I stand corrected on Oakland's three straight ROYs image
    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>NEW: Frank Thomas' SEVEN straight seasons of .300 BA/100 H's/100 R's/100 RBI's/290 TB's/20 HR's/100 BB's - Frank Thomas sure put the Big Hurt on consistency! In EVERY season from 1991-97, Big Frank had at least .308 BA, 141 H's, 102 R's, 101 RBI's, 291 TB's, 24 taters, and 109 BB's. No wonder he was on the top of the charts of the Beckett Hot List for 34 straight months! >>


    Not a knock on you but, like Bill James, I find these types of "records" to be pretty stupid. If you change just one thing in that batch of stats - TBs to just 292 - it all falls apart. All this is is a selection of good, but not always great, stats from a consistent player in the peak of his career, uniquely combined in a way that means nothing. >>



    It means nothing to you that no one else, not Ruth, Williams, Mays, Mantle, no one has even come close to doing all this? >>


    Right, it means nothing. Here's why it means nothing. How about I change the criteria to these:

    .295 BA/100 H's/100 R's/114 RBI/290 TBs/20 HRs/95 BBs

    Notice I changed just 3 stats: BA to .295, RBI to 114 and BBs to 95. Pretty minor change, right? Maybe even making it more difficult by raising the RBI to 114? Do that and now I've got a guy whose streak is 12 seasons.

    Or keep the original numbers you had and that same guy tops your set of numbers 11 straight seasons minus missing the BBs one year (95 instead of 100).

    That guy is Lou Gehrig.

    Or, if you decide to lower the walk total to just 96 - a 4% drop - I've got a guy that meets your guy's seven straight seasons. Ted Williams. And he comes close to making it 9 straight seasons despite missing half of a season in 1950.

    In other words, all you've done is take a guy who, admittedly, was pretty consistent for awhile and arbitrarily picked a bunch of stats where he excelled and used them to create some kind of "record". When it's all said and done, I'll take the seven straight of my guy (Ted Williams) where he narrowly misses 100 walks once but hits .400 one year and leads the league in OPS+ six straight times over your guy's seven seasons.
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭
    NEW: Rickey Henderson being on one team four non-consecutive times - Okay everybody knows Rickey as "the greatest of all time" in terms of stolen bases, runs scored, and walks (the swollen head asterisk guy doesn't count). But what makes Rickey even more fascinating is that he stands alone as being the only player to be on a team four non-consecutive occasions! You could say he's the "Grover Cleveland of baseball". More specifically his four terms with the Oakland Athletics are: 1979-84, 1989-93, 1994-95, 1998.

    NEW: Billy Martin being manager of a team five non-consecutive times - Billy Martin and George Steinbrenner's "he loves me, he loves me not" relationship is fairly well known, but it fits with Rickey's accomplishment so we'll give Billy a tip of the hat. His five consecutive terms with the Yankees as manager are: 1975-78, 1979, 1983, 1985, 1988)
    WISHLIST
    D's: 54S,53P,50P,49S,45D+S,44S,43D,41S,40D+S,39D+S,38D+S,37D+S,36S,35D+S,all 16-34's
    Q's: 52S,47S,46S,40S,39S,38S,37D+S,36D+S,35D,34D,32D+S
    74T: 37,38,47,151,193,241,435,570,610,654,655 97 Finest silver: 115,135,139,145,310
    73T:31,55,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,80,152,165,189,213,235,237,257,341,344,377,379,390,422,433,453,480,497,545,554,563,580,606,613,630
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  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭
    Bobby Cox 14 straight div titles will never be broken in baseball, or any other professional sport.
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    Most out made: Pete Rose with 10,328 (2nd place: Hank Aaron with 9,136/3rd place: Yaz 9,126)

    Most at bats: Pete Rose 14,053 (2nd place: Hank Aaron 12,364/3rd Place Yaz 11,988) COMPARE: Jeter 10,551

    Most Plate appearances: Pete Rose 15,890 (2nd Place: Yaz with 13,992/3rd Place Hank Aaaron 13,941))

    Games Played: Pete Rose 3,562 (2nd Place: Yaz 3,308/3rd Place: Hank Aaron 3,298)

    Times on Base: Pete Rose 5,929 (2nd Place: Barry Bonds 5,599/3rd Place: Ty Cobb 5,532)

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Here are three that I cannot see being broken:

    1. Most consecutive batters reaching base safely - 19 by the Dodgers in 1952.

    2. Most hits allowed by one pitcher in any game - 29 by Eddie Rommel in 1932.

    3. There are three recorded instances of a tripleheader in Major League Baseball. These occurred between the Brooklyn Bridegrooms and Pittsburgh Innocents on September 1, 1890 (Brooklyn won all three); between the Baltimore Orioles and Louisville Colonels on September 7, 1896 (Baltimore won all three); and between the Pittsburgh Pirates and Cincinnati Reds on October 2, 1920 (Cincinnati won two of the three).
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