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Red Sox equipment truck leaves Fenway for new jet blue park

pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭

Are we ready for some baseball?

Pitchers and catchers are getting ready to arrive at the new little fenway jet blue park for another fantastic season.

I am planning on attending myself, anybody else?

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  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    I am starting to get the itch, but last years collapse still leave a bad taste.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am starting to get the itch, but last years collapse still leave a bad taste. >>



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  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭

    Well it's the new year so out with the old one.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,675 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am starting to get the itch, but last years collapse still leave a bad taste. >>




    Totally agree, basically Im going to take this Seasons approach the same way I plan on taking next years Patriots Season...with much less emotional attachment.
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going to basically take the same approach as written above by others. The 7-20 collapse leaves a bitter taste...and to learn more of what appeared to be a total lack of concentration by some players is just crazy. I'm not so "rah, rah" on the Red Sox this year, we'll see what the roster looks like and what the new manager can do.

    Was a bit disappointed to see Scutaro gone, Paps not so much. Looks like we're stuck with Bobby "I'm a LOOOOOOOZER" Jelks. Glad that Drew has finally gotten on the out of town bus. Ortiz is asking for a massive increase, but we'll see what arbitration brings. Like Paul, a bit less gas in the tank for me.

    Red Sox not passing through Atlanta this year, so it's Directv for me.

    Tix to Ft Myers are crazy as well. I had thought about taking in a game or two, but most decent seats are long gone. Couple that with the split-squad thing and it just doesn't do it for me. Took in several games when they were in Winter Haven, but those days are long gone. I'll be out fishing in my new boat instead.



  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,675 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm going to basically take the same approach as written above by others. The 7-20 collapse leaves a bitter taste...and to learn more of what appeared to be a total lack of concentration by some players is just crazy. I'm not so "rah, rah" on the Red Sox this year, we'll see what the roster looks like and what the new manager can do.

    Was a bit disappointed to see Scutaro gone, Paps not so much. Looks like we're stuck with Bobby "I'm a LOOOOOOOZER" Jelks. Glad that Drew has finally gotten on the out of town bus. Ortiz is asking for a massive increase, but we'll see what arbitration brings. Like Paul, a bit less gas in the tank for me.

    Red Sox not passing through Atlanta this year, so it's Directv for me.

    Tix to Ft Myers are crazy as well. I had thought about taking in a game or two, but most decent seats are long gone. Couple that with the split-squad thing and it just doesn't do it for me. Took in several games when they were in Winter Haven, but those days are long gone. I'll be out fishing in my new boat instead. >>




    I too am glad that BUM JD Drew is finally gone regardless of what some Stat Geeks here say he was a huge waste. Looking for Crawford to get better this year ( He cant do worse could he? ) Hopefully Bobby V will right the ship and get these guys motivated to play with some heart but lets keep expectations in check and at a bare minimum.

    Al grats on the new Boat, Enjoy! image
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Paul...thanks!

    It's just a 15' Jon boat, but I was using an 18' canoe to fish with...a lot more stability with the Jon boat. Got a 50 lb thrust Minnkota to push it along (no gas motors where I go), so it should push it right along.

    Sold my "big" 55 Topps set and used the cash for things I felt would be more enjoyable to me. Paid off my mortgage (had a relatively small balance), nuked a credit card, built a 12x20 work shop and cruised over to Bass Pro Shops and bought a new trailer and the boat. Also just bought a new 2011 (they don't make 2012s anymore) Ford Ranger Sport (black) to tow the boat. So, I converted the cardboard into more "practical" things I wanted to enjoy.

    FWIW, I suffered along with you during the SB debacle. Painful to watch those minutes tick away in the 4th quarter.

    18 degrees here this AM !!!

    Regards,
    Al
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭

    I guess we are going to have Ortiz for another year seeing as how he settled at the halfway point which I feel is about 5 or 6 million too high.
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Assuming 3 ABs per game and playing all 162 games, that's $30k per AB. Not too shabby for a DH.

    Ted Williams' highest salary was $125k (1958-59) (NOT inflation adjusted)...so, in less than TWO games, Ortiz will blaze past him money wise. It numbs the mind !!
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess we are going to have Ortiz for another year seeing as how he settled at the halfway point which I feel is about 5 or 6 million too high. >>



    halfway point? between what? insanity and what he is worth? $14,575,000.00 for a year is ludicrious.
  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725
    I'm ready for the season to start. Who wants to have the honor of starting up the 2012 thread?

    Anyone else getting worried about how bad Bard has been as a starter in Spring Training? At this point, I think I'd rather have him close or set up Bailey and let Doubront and Aceves round out the starting five.
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not as enthused as I was last year. For whatever reason, I'm just not hyped as in the past. Perhaps I still have some heartburn over the mega-implosion of September...then to hear of some pitchers not even hanging on the rail to support the team, but instead sipping a Heinken and having fried chicken in the dugout. I think some changes for '12 are good, some maybe not so good. I gotta say that the Ortiz salary thing was beyond OBSCENE. He sure as hell isn't worth the coin they are paying him to mostly to DH maybe 4 times a game. Do the math...try not to throw up.

    Now we have one of the doofus clowns in the bullpen, aka uber-toad Jenks arrested for DUI, and oh, BTW, "I think I hit something when I drove away"...yeah, dumbass, you clipped another vehicle while you were leaving the strip club. People like this should do time as a dishwasher for a few months to appreciate what they have, not piss away opportunity and act like jerks.

    Oh for the magical times of long ago and far away, when it was always so exciting on my little transistor radio...Williams, Sammy White, Piersall, Jensen, Malzone, Daley and Delock. Curt Gowdy and Narragansett beer commercials. Sitting in the bleachers looking down at #7 for the Yankees...WOW, if you missed all that, you missed something that cannot be put into words. For those who may have spent some summers at the Cape, or Winnipesaukee, Hampton or the Berkshires, and had your little radio, you know what I mean.

    I'll pull for the Sox of course, but perhaps won't be watching every game, though I already have the package.

    Enjoy the season guys, who knows, things may gel, Valetine may be the spark and it all works...we'll see.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even as the season draws closer Im still not that excited either. I will be watching a few games here and there but as far as Im concerned the Red Sox are going to have to draw me back in and I highly doubt they will as much as they have in the past, as I said I have almost zero emotional attachment this year.
  • AC000000AC000000 Posts: 257 ✭✭✭
    I suffered along with you during the SB debacle. Painful to watch those minutes tick away in the 4th quarter.


    Me too. Last year's end to the season combined with the Patriots last moments loss of the Super Bowl, I feel the same way as I did after the 2008 Super Bowl, I almost need to take the season off. Also bummed that the Sox won't pass through Atlanta this year, but at least they'll pass through Chitown. 2005 was a blast, maybe that will get me into the season's groove.

  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725
    I'm not as down as the rest of you guys. I think the Sox have their work cut out for them, but I'm ready to put September behind us once and for all and see what this offense can do this year. The extra playoff spot should help the Sox at least get one playoff game this year.
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am not as enthused as I was last year. For whatever reason, I'm just not hyped as in the past. Perhaps I still have some heartburn over the mega-implosion of September...then to hear of some pitchers not even hanging on the rail to support the team, but instead sipping a Heinken and having fried chicken in the dugout. I think some changes for '12 are good, some maybe not so good. I gotta say that the Ortiz salary thing was beyond OBSCENE. He sure as hell isn't worth the coin they are paying him to mostly to DH maybe 4 times a game. Do the math...try not to throw up.

    Now we have one of the doofus clowns in the bullpen, aka uber-toad Jenks arrested for DUI, and oh, BTW, "I think I hit something when I drove away"...yeah, dumbass, you clipped another vehicle while you were leaving the strip club. People like this should do time as a dishwasher for a few months to appreciate what they have, not piss away opportunity and act like jerks.

    Oh for the magical times of long ago and far away, when it was always so exciting on my little transistor radio...Williams, Sammy White, Piersall, Jensen, Malzone, Daley and Delock. Curt Gowdy and Narragansett beer commercials. Sitting in the bleachers looking down at #7 for the Yankees...WOW, if you missed all that, you missed something that cannot be put into words. For those who may have spent some summers at the Cape, or Winnipesaukee, Hampton or the Berkshires, and had your little radio, you know what I mean.


    I remember sitting on the beach at Nantasket listening to the games but right now I am not at all excited about them.

    Maybe I will get up for them if they win a few games but right now they cant even win spring training games.

    I guess I am turning into what I always detested, a fair weather fan, as I approach old age.

    I'll pull for the Sox of course, but perhaps won't be watching every game, though I already have the package.

    Enjoy the season guys, who knows, things may gel, Valetine may be the spark and it all works...we'll see. >>

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Joba Chamberlain outdoes the uber-toad Jenks (sorta).

    Chamberlain broke an ankle yesterday while playing on a trampoline with his son. "Broken bone pierced the skin"...ya know that had to hurt !! Out till July, or more.

    Now I ask you...why on earth would you do something, seemingly a simple thing, and risk endangering your career? What are these guys thinking?
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭

    I don/t know, ask Mr Jenks what he was doing at a strip club before he drove away to get a DUI?
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As for Jenks, the story reads as follows:

    The Boston Red Sox reliever was arrested for DUI, destruction of personal property and leaving the scene of an accident early Friday morning in Fort Myers, Fla.

    "We have been made aware of a situation regarding Bobby Jenks and take such matters seriously," a team statement said. "We are gathering information."

    Jenks told Lee County, Florida police that he was driving erratic because "I took too many muscle relaxers."

    Asked by police if he knew why he was pulled over, Jenks replied: "Probably because I was all over the road back there."

    When police asked him if he had taken anything else other than muscle relaxers, he said, "was going to be honest with you, I was just leaving Babes (nightclub) because I hit a car. I just had to get out of there."

    Jenks, who is recovering from two back surgeries this offseason, has dealt with a lot of off-the-field issues since his days in the minor leagues.

    In 2002, Jenks was demoted from Class AA by the Anaheim Angels for repeatedly bringing beer onto the team bus.

    In January 2010, he told ESPN Chicago that he did not drink anymore, a reaction, he said, to now having four children more than anything.

    "I no longer drink," he said. "No alcohol at all. Not even a beer here or there. Just things like that, really focusing on the future. It was a personal choice. It hadn't gotten too much. I just found myself not wanting to [drink] anymore. I just wanted to be more of a family man. Then this last year, I came to Christ and that was a big influence on my life."



    A TOTAL BOZO!! How on earth the Red Sox management fill their rosters with LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZZZZZERS like this simply numbs my mind. Can we say Eric Gagme ??

    The bright spot for the 2012 Red Sox as far as I am concerned at this point is the fact that the uber, uber-toad maximus Lackey will not pitch this season...thanks to Tommy John surgery. Of course he was one of those crushing beers and swilling down the Popeye's while the team was doing the implosion special last year. Geez, doesn't it just amaze??? Really !!!!!

    I will try to be more optimistic, but the entire organization has one helluva road to hoe to pull me back in.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jenks should just come back to reality and get better from his back injury and if he wants to drink then fine get shattered occasionaly and try to pick up a smokin broad, sober up and get back to work the next day like everyone else in the freakin world and be happy he is a ballplayer.

    In other words give me a break!
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭

    The way they are playing they might as well leave their equipment in Florida and the truck too.
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    from the mouth of uber-toad John Lackluster...

    FORT MYERS, Fla. -- Red Sox right-hander John Lackey, who is recovering from Tommy John surgery and won't pitch in 2012, remains miffed at the criticism Boston starting pitchers received for drinking beer in the clubhouse last season.

    But he now realizes he made a poor choice of words in summing up the situation in a Boston Globe article that ran on Tuesday.

    "Guys having a beer after their start has been going on for the last 100 years," Lackey told the newspaper. "This is retarded. It's not like we were sitting up there doing it every night. It's not even close to what people think."


    Later on Tuesday, Lackey apologized for his insensitivity.

    "I apologize for my thoughtless choice of words that appeared in print earlier today," Lackey said in a statement released by the Red Sox. "I meant no harm, and I am sorry to all I offended."

    The Red Sox have banned beer in the home clubhouse this season, and also on flights when they are headed back to Boston.

    Does Lackey acknowledge that members of Boston's rotation -- including himself -- made a mistake by consuming alcohol in the clubhouse during games?

    "I guess. Sure. They're being made in every clubhouse in the big leagues, then," Lackey said to The Globe's Dan Shaughnessy. "If we'd have made the playoffs, we'd have been a bunch of fun guys."

    Red Sox co-aces Jon Lester and Josh Beckett both said earlier this spring they had lapses in judgment last season and vowed to make better decisions going forward.

    **********************************************

    As stated earlier, the Red Sox team has a very, VERY long way to go to really crank up my support. It's punk-assed comments like these from an easily irked mega-millionaire doofus that really lick the red right off my candy. Yo, dude...shut up and pitch and act like a pro, you're being paid a fortune to throw a damn ball for maybe 6 innings once every 5 games for six months out of the year.
  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725
    As bad as all this has reads, I think I understand where guys like Lackey and Beckett are coming from when they make these statements. When "The Idiots" drank shots of Jack Daniels before playoff games they were lauded as lovable idiots and they became heroes. The situations are a little different in that they were drink Jack as a team and the pitchers were apparently drinking beer when they should have been supporting their team. But I think there is a lot of truth to the statement that if they hadn't choked in September nobody would really give a damn if they had been drinking beer in the clubhouse.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    beer and chicken were not the problems. Players sucking was the problem.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lackey should be more concerned with his rehab and realizing if guys like himself would have not taken advantage of Francona's lack of balls in the first place this beer ban never would have happened.
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As bad as all this has reads, I think I understand where guys like Lackey and Beckett are coming from when they make these statements. When "The Idiots" drank shots of Jack Daniels before playoff games they were lauded as lovable idiots and they became heroes. The situations are a little different in that they were drink Jack as a team and the pitchers were apparently drinking beer when they should have been supporting their team. But I think there is a lot of truth to the statement that if they hadn't choked in September nobody would really give a damn if they had been drinking beer in the clubhouse.

    Chad...this is a rare moment when I totally disagree with your post. You are not comparing equal events IMO. The 2004 playoffs series against the Yankees is arguably the greatest comeback in baseball history. You will recall the Yankees were up 3-0 and the 3rd win was an absolute crusher in Fenway, defeating the Red Sox 19-8 on a damp Saturday night in October (the 18th I believe). Then miracle of miracles, the Red Sox had an incredible 8 game win run to clinch the WS. I too wouldh've been belting a shot of Jack Daniels before the game to calm my nerves...it was pretty obvious to the players that history was afoot in a BIG way.

    The situation last year was apparently between 3 pitchers, Beckett; super-uber-toad Lackless and Lester, who were in the dugout pounding down beers and enjoying pizza while the team struggled on the field. I submit to you that a shot of Jack takes a few seconds, hammering a couple of beers and perhaps a couple of slices of pizza is in essence dissing the team for one's own pleasure and takes a good while to accomplish. Their asses should have been on the rail and cheering the team on, good, bad, ugly or whatever. Those three chose to be selfish and not act like teammates or professionals. Even if they had gone on to win the WS, in my book, the beer and pizza party the 3 enjoyed couldh've waited till after the game, NOT during.

    The other angle here, aptly pointed out by Paul, is the lack of balls by Tito to tighten up the ship. It appears there was a very easy going, don't upset the players mentality that was ongoing. Even Ortiz commented, "this ain't a bar"...AND, Beckett and Lester have acknowledge "poor decision making in the past".

    So, I submit to you, that these guys are either 100% teammates or they aren't. Support the guys between the lines or don't...I submit to you that these 3 clowns failed, not only as pros, and not only to their teammates, but to the fans who directly pay their mind-numbing salaries.
  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725
    Al, I agree with you in that the timing of when they drank was the problem. They should have been supporting the team and not drinking by themselves during games. But I don't think eating fried chicken and drinking beer in the clubhouse is the disease in this case. It's merely the observable symptoms of a clubhouse that wasn't healthy anymore.

    But I do believe that if the team hadn't collapsed in September, this story would never have come to light.
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chad,

    Point well taken...I think the implosion, coupled with the departure of Epstein and Francona caused the onion to be peeled back quite a bit. Just for the record, I don't think any form of booze should be allowed "x" number of hours prior to any game and at anytime during the game. After the game is over...I think it's not a big deal...caveat that some form of guidelines should be establsihed to avoid a player from becoming a serious drinker after games. I suspect there is ample drinking and drugging going on after games, but that's just my opinion.

    This whole topic would be moot had Francona nipped things in the bud as they progressed. FWIW, I'm not sure why Valentine has banned beer on return flights. The jury is still out on him...surely Schilling has already thrown him under the bus.

    Hope all is well on your side.

    Regards,
    Al


  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    Looks like Bailey is headed to the DL.

    This should be interesting !

    I guess we can use Aceves to do that job seeing as how he lost the starting position he so badly wanted.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,675 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Chad,

    Point well taken...I think the implosion, coupled with the departure of Epstein and Francona caused the onion to be peeled back quite a bit. Just for the record, I don't think any form of booze should be allowed "x" number of hours prior to any game and at anytime during the game. After the game is over...I think it's not a big deal...caveat that some form of guidelines should be establsihed to avoid a player from becoming a serious drinker after games. I suspect there is ample drinking and drugging going on after games, but that's just my opinion.

    This whole topic would be moot had Francona nipped things in the bud as they progressed. FWIW, I'm not sure why Valentine has banned beer on return flights. The jury is still out on him...surely Schilling has already thrown him under the bus.

    Hope all is well on your side.

    Regards,
    Al >>



    To give my take on coments made by Al and Chad.... Winning solves everything image

    If the Sox won it all or even made it to the playoffs we would all be typing differently I think!
  • what sent Bailey to the DL ?
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    Hurt his thumb.

    It must be some sort of disease going around, now Beckett has a sore thumb!
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