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Reason #318 I prefer PSA over BGS...

epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭
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BGS employs the legally blind (EEO reasons perhaps)... as graders!

I often look at BGS cards on eBay that I might be able to cross to PSA and improve my sets. Most people can recall the Strasburg X-Fractor 1/1 that BGS graded a 9.5... when it was clearly a 9 at best (centering was not great).

Tonight I found this... if it was 9 that could cross to a 9... would be an upgrade for me...

10 on the Centering Subgrade!!!

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  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭
    When I was flipping cards, years ago at the shows, BGS was so hard on me I gave up on them.

    It seems they dropped the tough grading act and sold out.
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    I am not familiar with their grading standards, but I measure the L/R centering (near the top) at just better than 60/40. I would sure want better centering on that if I was paying "10" money. In addition, there is a friggin diamond cut.
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  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am not familiar with their grading standards, but I measure the L/R centering (near the top) at just better than 60/40. I would sure want better centering on that if I was paying "10" money. In addition, there is a friggin diamond cut. >>




    Pristine 10
    Centering: 50/50 all around on front. 60/40 or better on back.

    Gem Mint 9.5
    Centering: 50/50 one way, 55/45 the other on front. 65/35 or better on back

    Mint 9
    Centering: 55/45 both ways on front. 70/30 or better on back

    Near Mint/Mint 8
    Centering: 60/40 both ways or better on front. 80/20 or better on back
  • miconelegacymiconelegacy Posts: 3,052 ✭
    Not 10 Centering...
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  • ToroToro Posts: 1,515


    << <i>It seems they dropped the tough grading act and sold out. >>



    That's exactly what happened, they were sold.
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    When I first got back into collecting cards after TPG became part of the equation, I used BGS because of no membership fee, and I often bought BGS graded cards. I have since corrected that issue.

    I do still own a couple of BGS cards, but the number is less than ten (and about half of them I have kept simply because they have so little value that selling them isn't worth the hassle). The only one of any significant value is an '84 Fleer Update Puckett RC.
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  • Sean1125Sean1125 Posts: 3,479


    << <i>When I first got back into collecting cards after TPG became part of the equation, I used BGS because of no membership fee, and I often bought BGS graded cards. I have since corrected that issue.

    I do still own a couple of BGS cards, but the number is less than ten (and about half of them I have kept simply because they have so little value that selling them isn't worth the hassle). The only one of any significant value is an '84 Fleer Update Puckett RC. >>



    What's the grade on the puckett / do you have a scan?
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    lol, you are complaining about 1 subgrade on a graded 9 modern card???

    we would be having the same conversation about psa subs if they rationalized their overall grade like bgs does.

    thats not 10 centering but in this example it doesn't make a difference to the overall grade anyways.
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096


    << <i>What's the grade on the puckett / do you have a scan? >>



    It's a BGS 9.5 with three 9.5 subgrades and one 9. I think the 9 is corners. I don't have a scan of the card.
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    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>What's the grade on the puckett / do you have a scan? >>



    It's a BGS 9.5 with three 9.5 subgrades and one 9. I think the 9 is corners. I don't have a scan of the card. >>



    That card is easily one of the toughest cards from the 80s to find centered in a PSA 9 jacket

    this was the best that i could find:

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    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • illinifan912illinifan912 Posts: 1,462 ✭


    << <i>BGS employs the legally blind (EEO reasons perhaps)... as graders!

    I often look at BGS cards on eBay that I might be able to cross to PSA and improve my sets. Most people can recall the Strasburg X-Fractor 1/1 that BGS graded a 9.5... when it was clearly a 9 at best (centering was not great).

    Tonight I found this... if it was 9 that could cross to a 9... would be an upgrade for me...

    10 on the Centering Subgrade!!! >>



    and psa/sgc have sparkling clean records. I'm guessing you forgot about frosted cases
  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>BGS employs the legally blind (EEO reasons perhaps)... as graders!

    I often look at BGS cards on eBay that I might be able to cross to PSA and improve my sets. Most people can recall the Strasburg X-Fractor 1/1 that BGS graded a 9.5... when it was clearly a 9 at best (centering was not great).

    Tonight I found this... if it was 9 that could cross to a 9... would be an upgrade for me...

    10 on the Centering Subgrade!!! >>



    and psa/sgc have sparkling clean records. I'm guessing you forgot about frosted cases >>



    Combat logic with logic, and nonsense with nonsense... but everyone loses when you try to combat one with the other!

    With that said... no I haven't, nor have I forgotten about frosted flakes... umm, they're great!
  • msohnmsohn Posts: 61 ✭
    What's up ETP?

    I gave up trying to pick off BGS cards for cross over into PSA. A few years ago, I bought a handful of Pujols rookie cards in BGS 9.5. Only 1 card actually crossed over. The rest were rejected for trimmed edges.
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