. fortunately with only 1 known die pair for business strikes for this year
authentication is unmistakable if you know the many reverse diagnostics
if you would like more information, let me know . as to the coin pictured, those photos are really not sufficient but i'm guessing from the look, the coin is not authentic . natural ambient light creates some funny looks on coins, especially at a distance and at various angles .
You guys are on your toes. I think the smartest 5% of numismatists frequent these forums.
Doesn't scream 'fake' to the casual observer- yet it is.
These are silent little killers of the human spirit when in the wrong hands. I'm proud PCGS is aggressively and passionately going after these foreign profiteers.
Its general appearance on the obverse raised some tiny red flags with me, but I wouldn't have picked up on the fake holder.
Scary stuff. Think of how many people would have been taken.
I'd have gotten around to wondering about the disconnect between the label grade and the coin's appearance, but in an unguarded moment or two I have to confess that they might've gotten me, too.
Not that I would ever be buying something like that in an unguarded moment. Key date stuff like that is outta my league. I'll stay humble- the sort of stuff I like isn't as frequently counterfeited, or if it is, people don't go out of their way to put fake plastic around their fake products.
The PCGS cert # checks out in terms of date and grade but it is not the coin that sold as Lot #1064 in the Heritage October 2009 Signature Auction (based on cert #)...definitely a fake... Regards, Daniel Boone
<< <i>And if it was real that is the best darn AU53 I have ever seen! >>
But I definately agree with you there. That is really the only thing that made me question it.
What do I need to know about the holder to tell that it is fake, other than what I just said about the coin, noting that the information on the lable is correct according to the Cert. Verification.
I have to admit that I am lost on this fake holder TPG trend. It really makes it tough to buy on the internet anymore since our due diligence used to entail making sure that the coin was in a TPGs holder.
Any information would be appreciated. If you prefer to PM me, that's OK, too, but there are probably others who would like to know.
I've mentioned this site before. Take a look and see how many fakes are really out there. All you have to do is put the cert number (numbers after the slash) in the search box and hit search. bob Flicker fakes
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"Doesn't scream 'fake' to the casual observer- yet it is"
may not scream it but it yells quite loudly ! i dont know jack about morgans but i know that one just doesnt look right. no silver coin over 10 years old is going to be that bright in its natural state.
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
<< <i>And if it was real that is the best darn AU53 I have ever seen! >>
But I definately agree with you there. That is really the only thing that made me question it.
What do I need to know about the holder to tell that it is fake, other than what I just said about the coin, noting that the information on the lable is correct according to the Cert. Verification. >>
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fortunately with only 1 known die pair for business strikes for this year
authentication is unmistakable if you know the many reverse diagnostics
if you would like more information, let me know
.
as to the coin pictured, those photos are really not sufficient but i'm guessing from the look, the coin is not authentic
.
natural ambient light creates some funny looks on coins, especially at a distance and at various angles
.
I think the smartest 5% of numismatists frequent these forums.
Doesn't scream 'fake' to the casual observer- yet it is.
These are silent little killers of the human spirit when in the wrong hands. I'm proud PCGS is aggressively and passionately going after these foreign profiteers.
peacockcoins
sorry,
bob
Scary stuff. Think of how many people would have been taken.
I'd have gotten around to wondering about the disconnect between the label grade and the coin's appearance, but in an unguarded moment or two I have to confess that they might've gotten me, too.
Not that I would ever be buying something like that in an unguarded moment. Key date stuff like that is outta my league. I'll stay humble- the sort of stuff I like isn't as frequently counterfeited, or if it is, people don't go out of their way to put fake plastic around their fake products.
<< <i>I think it's a fake coin and holder.
-Paul >>
Agreed.
And if it was real that is the best darn AU53 I have ever seen!
Edited to add the last smart remark.
<< <i>Font is too fat. >>
I think that may just be the lighting angle.
<< <i>And if it was real that is the best darn AU53 I have ever seen! >>
But I definately agree with you there. That is really the only thing that made me question it.
What do I need to know about the holder to tell that it is fake, other than what I just said about the coin, noting that the information on the lable is correct according to the Cert. Verification.
I have to admit that I am lost on this fake holder TPG trend. It really makes it tough to buy on the internet anymore since our due diligence used to entail making sure that the coin was in a TPGs holder.
Any information would be appreciated. If you prefer to PM me, that's OK, too, but there are probably others who would like to know.
Cheers !
edited to add the last line.
All you have to do is put the cert number (numbers after the slash) in the search box
and hit search.
bob
Flicker fakes
may not scream it but it yells quite loudly ! i dont know jack about morgans but i know that one just doesnt look right. no silver coin over 10 years old is going to be that bright in its natural state.
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<< <i>Font is too fat. >>
I think that may just be the lighting angle.
<< <i>And if it was real that is the best darn AU53 I have ever seen! >>
But I definately agree with you there. That is really the only thing that made me question it.
What do I need to know about the holder to tell that it is fake, other than what I just said about the coin, noting that the information on the lable is correct according to the Cert. Verification. >>
the font is wrong... too fat/bold
dead giveaway.