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Have you ever done this.................. (and thus prove you are a coin nerd)...................
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............................ like I did today?
I was at Starbucks picking up a tea for my wife. Standing at the register with paper money in my hand and pocket change in my pants pocket I look into the Tip jar. I see a Wheat cent [reverse up so I do not know the date].
I think I have got to get that cent [who know it may be a 1955 DDO]. So I dig into my pocket and take out two dimes and two cents. I get handed some change from the cashier from my purchase. I take all this change and reach into the Tip jar to deposit it and to take out the wheat cent.
Turns out it is dated 1958D.
Pretty sad, wot
I was at Starbucks picking up a tea for my wife. Standing at the register with paper money in my hand and pocket change in my pants pocket I look into the Tip jar. I see a Wheat cent [reverse up so I do not know the date].
I think I have got to get that cent [who know it may be a 1955 DDO]. So I dig into my pocket and take out two dimes and two cents. I get handed some change from the cashier from my purchase. I take all this change and reach into the Tip jar to deposit it and to take out the wheat cent.
Turns out it is dated 1958D.
Pretty sad, wot
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<< <i>............................ like I did today?
I was at Starbucks picking up a tea for my wife. Standing at the register with paper money in my hand and pocket change in my pants pocket I look into the Tip jar. I see a Wheat cent [reverse up so I do not know the date].
I think I have got to get that cent [who know it may be a 1955 DDO]. So I dig into my pocket and take out two dimes and two cents. I get handed some change from the cashier from my purchase. I take all this change and reach into the Tip jar to deposit it and to take out the wheat cent.
Turns out it is dated 1958D.
Pretty sad, wot
did you feel your palms start to sweat because you were wondering if you could get the wheat cent with no one noticing?
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and then wondering to yourself how much should you leave in order to justify taking the cent !
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<< <i>If asked, I would have explained I was switching out an old coin with a new one, and more. If they objected I would not have finished the switch. >>
Hey, you're a lawyer, so maybe you can answer.
Is what you're doing illegal? Assuming that no one saw and you could make the switch without being detected.
<< <i>What would you have done if you had plucked out a 55 DDO from the tip jar, and would it be legal (or ethical)? >>
You have to be kidding.....
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<< <i>What would you have done if you had plucked out a 55 DDO from the tip jar, and would it be legal (or ethical)? >>
You have to be kidding..... >>
What's funny about the question?
<< <i>What would you have said if someone saw you taking money from the tip jar. Would have been an embarassing situation I would think. >>
That's actually a Steinfeld episode. Classic George. MJ
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Let's say someone throws them a $5 gold piece at Christmas, just to be generous.
Would it be OK to throw in a $10 bill, take the gold and say you wanted to leave a generous $5 tip??
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From a legal standpoint, I would have to concede the the coins in the Tip jar are owned by either (1) the retail establishment [which can do what it wants to with the coins, including keeping them, replacing them, handing them out to employees, etc.]; or (2) the employees of the retail establishment working the shift during which the Tip jar is fill [who then can figure out what to do with the coins and how to distrubute them].
A customer switching out a coin from the Tip jar could ask for permission either (1) before the switch; or (2) after the switch. And in that event permission would either be granted [likely] or denied. If denied, then the coin should either not be switched; or if already switched should be returned.
If the switched out coin turns out to be valuable [i.e. a 1955 DDO cent] and permission has been granted before the switch has been made, then legally there is no problem keeping it. If switched out before permission is granted and the value of the coin is then discovered, a legal question arises as to whether the person switching out the coin and seeking permission must first disclose that the coin is valuable before seeking after the fact permission to switch.
Morally/ethically one should disclose that the coin is valuable regardless of whether the switch is made before or after permission is sought and/or obtained. I would have done that.
So who else wants to say what they would do under RYK's hypothetical.
<< <i>RYK's question is a very good one.
From a legal standpoint, I would have to concede the the coins in the Tip jar are owned by either (1) the retail establishment [which can do what it wants to with the coins, including keeping them, replacing them, handing them out to employees, etc.]; or (2) the employees of the retail establishment working the shift during which the Tip jar is fill [who then can figure out what to do with the coins and how to distrubute them].
A customer switching out a coin from the Tip jar could ask for permission either (1) before the switch; or (2) after the switch. And in that event permission would either be granted [likely] or denied. If denied, then the coin should either not be switched; or if already switched should be returned.
If the switched out coin turns out to be valuable [i.e. a 1955 DDO cent] and permission has been granted before the switch has been made, then legally there is no problem keeping it. If switched out before permission is granted and the value of the coin is then discovered, a legal question arises as to whether the person switching out the coin and seeking permission must first disclose that the coin is valuable before seeking after the fact permission to switch.
Morally/ethically one should disclose that the coin is valuable regardless of whether the switch is made before or after permission is sought and/or obtained. I would have done that.
So who else wants to say what they would do under RYK's hypothetical. >>
I think waaaay too much thought is goin into that one.
I would never go through the effort just for a wheatie, but if I did, I would just say "hey, I collect coins and that one looks cool. I'll give you 50 cents for it." They would probably just give it to you for free. It's a penny.